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Hi All,
Please help having a look and provide your opinion.
Many thanks!
Alex
@shinigami Thank you for your feedback. I think the inscription of year could be 1731, 1791,1851,1911, 1971, etc. Also, it is written in Kangxi and the famille verte was popular in the period but I dont think it is that old. Anyway, the inscription is misleading. If it is made 1900s, I would be very glad already.
I too feel 1911 (not an expert at dating by any means) would be about right date wise, the detail and elegance in the painting is not there as one would expect in the Kangxi period, it is however consistent with late 19th early 20th century, especially from what I can see of the way the branches and clouds are painted. I am of course no expert in these sorts of things, just my take. How large is it?
It has a very nice presence.
Jeremy
康熙辛亥年 is 1671. since Kang Xi is added to the front (which we read from right to left) it can only be between the years that Kang xi ruled.
@Alex Wan,
Hi Alex,
From your images in my opinion your pot is famille verte and highly probable to be either very late guangxu period or early republic period. It's definitely not earlier!
It's a beautifully rendered piece that appears to be in good condition condition.
Great purchase! 🙏
Mark
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I am much less experienced than the other commentators, so keep that in mind. Perhaps I am just being exposed to new things and that is why it looks newer to me. I find the dirty yellow/pea green color to be odd for the period others are citing. Also, the darker green seems to be more similar to later pieces that I have seen attributed to the 40's or 50's. I just haven't seen pieces like that before from Guangxu time with those colors, but maybe that's just my inexperience. I wonder if for education purposes others can show examples of Guangxu items with matching colors?
So, from what Ang is saying, and it is an attempt to portray the vase as 1671. Then maybe we can throw out that cyclical date and use other evidence. A good chance the cyclical date doesn’t correspond with the actual date the piece was made. So, maybe Mark’s assessment would be the best way to date the vase...in a range. 🤔 I have no idea how to date these Chinese vases. But I did notice that the men’s faces look very similar to each other, for what that’s worth.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
As I wrote its highly probable to be (early) republican period. Whether it is early or late is very difficult to pin down. It's certainly not in my opinion later PROC. Even the hand-rendered interior fits the period.
Just my thoughts!
Mark
I disagree. I think it is modern.
1st. Never seen this shape before
2nd. Enamels look muddy
3rd. The style is off for guangxu, especially the faces that all look the same.
4th. The bottom isn't right for the period. (or any other period )
I can't make up my mind about this, it definitely looks 20th c and although a couple of things make me wonder if it might be early, I can't convince myself that the base, identical faces and shape aren't a result of it being a later interpretation (maybe 1980 s) of a Guangxu piece.
Those faces are strikingly odd - almost creepy. I don't like the border either, from the lotus petals upwards. Too many things in it which seems uncomfortable.
I don't think I would buy this, I would always have doubts.
Hi All,
I dont except having so much discussion. Thank you so much!
First of all , the size of the vase is height 40 cm and diameter 30 cm. Second, it is only an item selling online in Hong Kong and not mine yet. Third, it is definitely not Kangxi and the seller did not say so as well. I agree the base is too ugly and should not be that period. Also, I reviewed again that the yellow is not right too. It is also funny to find the faces of the characters in the vase are really very similar. Maybe they are from the same family. Lol.
It was so great to see your opinions and it is so fun to review a piece together.
Cheers,
Alex
@alexkpwan Sorry for being late to the discussion.
Alex, I hope you didn't buy this vase, or paid very little, but it looks to be a recent copy.
Muddy colors, crowded design, poor execution of figures and overall motifs.
Writing and marks can sometimes be great clues, but in this case it was to draw attention away from other faults.
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