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Hi All,
Well, Jade has been a common topic recently, so I thought I would ask about some jade, or near-jade, jewelry that I have picked up over the years. I think I know what some of it is, and have no idea on the rest.
First, here is a jadeite bracelet with 14K fittings; it is a common style from the 1950's-1960's, so I am confident on that one. I thought the two bangles were fake and dyed, but they pass the scratch test and they do not bleed green in either water or acetone, so now I am not sure.
The pendant with the 14K/diamond mount looks like jadeite to me. The butterfly is mounted in 14K as well; I thought it was serpentine, but it is very hard; it passes the scratch test, so I think it is nephrite?
I am not sure about the lizard (mounted in 14K again) or the ring (mounted in 18K, but the diamonds are fake). The stone in the ring changes color with viewing direction--it is darker green from the side that from the top. I think that Mark said that this is a sign that the stone is not jade--chrysophrase, maybe? the lizard just doesn't look right to me. Both pass the hardness test.
The two sets of earrings are mounted in 18K (ovals) and 14K (elongated), and have beautiful jade. I would have thought jadeite, but I associate a more bluish green color to that mineral. These are an odd slightly yellowish green color--are they jadeite or nephrite?
Finally, this is my favorite. It is a sterling art nouveau watch fob, with an emerald green stone in it. I think the stone is just glass, but am unwilling to try and scratch it, because I like it so much! If it is jade, then it is a really, really nice piece. I like this one so much it makes me want to buy a pocket watch!
Just for the fun of it, here are a few pieces, mounted in 14K, that did bleed in acetone. They are real stone of some sort, but definitely dyed! By the way, I do NOT recommend using the acetone test, unless you are willing to have your stone fade a little... 😉
Charles
Sorry, can't help, I just have a question. I thought they would bleed in water? Did I misunderstand or is there another reason to use acetone?
The watch fob is very nice!
@Charles Bryan,
Hi Charles,
For this answer I had to get out a pen and paper. 🖋️📄😁
I shall go through them in order of the images as they appear on the screen.
1. Looks to be genuine jade bangle. Nicely carved from the early 20th century. Later mounted/repaired as bangle broke at some point. Nice piece. Average quality jade.
2. The two jade bangles are a mix in my opinion. The top one looks OK. However the bottom is dyed/treated in my opinion.
3. The diamond (4) looks to be treated jadeite.
4. The butterfly looks to be serpentine.
5. The 18ct ring is difficult. It could be jadeite or treated. It could also be chrysophase. Would need to be handled and examined.
6. The lizard is treated jade 100%.
7. The jade hopped gold earrings. These are highly probable to be genuine jadeite jade of apple green colour and possibly highly translucent. These could be worth very good money. They would need to analyzed by a gemologist on order to determine either way. Really beautiful pair of earrings that could be on the cusp of imperial jadeite jade. It's difficult to tell because of the flash/camera. Love them. Beautiful colour!
8. The other pair of earrings look like jadeite jade. But could be treated. Unfortunately they appear to be cracked or is that a inclusion? I can't tell from the image.
9. Unfortunately the fob is either glass or chrysophase. It's not jadeite jade.
10. The bracelet is inconclusive. Could be genuine. Could be treated.
11. The four pieces are highly probable to be treated.
The above is just an opinion. As there are only one image of each etc. The hopped earrings have real potential to be imperial grade jadeite jade if they are translucent and not treated. I don't think they are treated but it's only one image. Really great find!
A UV test is fairly accurate with treatment on jadeite jade. Genuine A grade does not reflect the light. Treated will nor light up like a Christmas tree.
The issue of lighter colour on one side than the other is generally a good indicator of dyed jade.
Some nice pieces you have. At least they are in gold with some diamonds. My favorite is obviously the hopped earrings. Really beautiful and highly potential jadeite jade of good colour!
The term bleeding refer to if a jade piece has been dyed or not. By putting it on a glass of water overnight normally if it's dyed the water will change colour with the dye leaching out. I would resist acetone.
I hope this helps you out a little bit Charles. If you have the earrings professionally examined and I urge you to so. Please let us know the results.
Mark
Thanks Mark, I thought that was what I remembered from one of your earlier posts. 😊
Mark, What a lesson you gave us! It is always a great learning experience for me when you comment on jades, and I believe that for everyone on the forum. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge, and thanks Charles for showing us your pieces, all very interesting.
@mb1991 I second that, loved seeing the jewelry. Love the first bracelet and all others too regardless of stone. Do you think those accent stones in the butterfly are rubies, pink sapphires or pink tourmaline? I like that one too. Sharon
Hi Sharon P,
It's nearly impossible to determine by way of one image what the pink stones are. Highly unlikely to be rubies though.
Said item is I believe probably from the 60's/70's. Serpentine was often back then confused with nephrite jade. As it's set in 14ct (from memory) and is well made it would certainly have a market place.
I also like the jade bracelet. It's good quality. He has acquired some nice pieces.
Of course in my opinion the best piece is or could be the jadeite jade earrings I wrote about. If genuine jadeite and imperial they are very sought after.
Mark
@imperialfinegems Imperial green color jadeite would definitely take first prize and be very expensive to duplicate, should probably be insured after certification. I would be afraid of losing Imperial jadeite jade to wear very often, since it would be in the thousands replacement cost.
Hi Sharon P,
If the said are certified as genuine imperial jadeite jade they should be insured etc. Or if he wanted sold via bonhams etc. Most definitely if genuine have a strong market place.
Mark
If they turn out to be something like this maybe you could trade them in for a nice house. 😀 https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/magnificent-jewels-and-jadeite-hk0637/lot.1723.html
Of course as the saying goes, don't count your jade chickens before they hatch!
Had a closer look at those hopped earrings in the original post. On a large screen.
Good to excellent quality jadeite jade but not imperial quality in my opinion. Still it's worth getting them assessed by a gemologist.
Of course it depends on whether they are grade A or treated.
Member has a nice little collection of various qualities and interesting and quirky items like the butterfly and lizard.
Was just scanning the internet on gems and came across this cabachon stone. Rare example of a highly translucent green serpentine stone. Looks very much like high quality jadeite.
Mark
Thanks Mark!
Oval earrings in 18K actually don't have a flaw--the bottom looks lighter because it is reflecting the white cloth. The line through the middle is just a reflection of the edge of the cloth. Both the hopped earrings and the ovals are nearly identical color. They are not entirely translucent, but have texture; I don't think they qualify as imperial jade. Darn!
I think the eyes of the butterfly are synthetic rubies. Synthetic ruby has been made since the 1880's and are frequently used, even in cheap jewelry. The butterfly looks like serpentine, but is a very hard stone. My genyuwine WWII British commando dagger slips right off of it, and it scratches all of my other serpentine easily. Odd piece.
Charles
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