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Hi, All.
Here is another weekend find, a large teapot, or possibly a lidded pitcher? It is 8" tall and 7" wide, and is in pretty good shape, although one of the four loops for attaching a bamboo handle or possibly string, is broken. It seems to have a good deal of honest dirt; the pictures are without cleaning, but I tried to clean it afterwards, and very little came off. The footrim is dark and sandy, and the bottom of the lid is...well, oatmealy? People describe some porcelain as looking like oatmeal, but this is the first piece I have seen that really fits that description. The bottom is turquoise, and looks to me to be that classic late Qing turquoise color. It is entirely hand-decorated, and the pink, and green, and yellow enamels look good for late Qing to me. Is it Guangxu, maybe? Is it actually a teapot? It seems awfully large...
Thanks,
Charles
It is an unusual shape but I found another, not as nice as yours but good to compare. Could it be a wine pot?
It isn't what I think of as a typical nyonya pattern, more like the pieces that are referred to as pre-bencharong, but I would say mid-19th c to late 19th c. But I am not sure.
https://www.chairish.com/product/2712970/late-19th-century-nonya-straits-chinese-porcelain-sauce-pot
Just found this. The Shangri-la guys often date pre-bencharong to 18th c but I am never quite sure about that.
Julia, you hit the nail on the head. I never stop wondering how you find these examples.
Birgit
Julia, I concur with Birgit--you are the best at finding similar pieces online.
Now, I just have to do some research to find out what distinguishes Bencharong, Perenakan and Nonya Straits pieces. I know they are Chinese exports to SE Asia, but that is about it! 🙂
Julia always finds great examples.
I think the one from charish is modern copy of sorts. These have become very collectable over recent times bringing really good prices. Even so the ordinary furniture.
Yours is a nice example from I believe the very late 19th to the very early 20th century. Later examples tend to more bluish rather than turquoise.
Is the interior stained with tea residue?
Mark
Nonya, Perananakan or Straits porcelain is the same. It has quite a uniform decoration of phoenix and peonies or only peonies. Strictly speaking Bencharong was made for Thailand and also has a typical pattern with two deities on it (google for Bencharong to see what I mean). Shangrila antique use the term more loosely though. In my opinion your pitcher is made in a general South East Asia export style.
Birgit
Mark, there a residue inside. I am not sure if it is tea...
Also thanks for the information, Birgit. I noticed that it did not look much like the Bencharong style I found online, or the Nopnya Straits patterns; your comment clear things up.
Charles
Thanks, everyone. A little luck can go a long way, when searching. 😊
Charles, your pot is, I feel, very much in the style of the large floral plates often found on the Shangri-la site, sold as pre-bencharong, but I am not sure I agree with their earlier dating, or how useful the name is. A lot of these are chargers, I wonder if yours is indeed a sauce-pot designed to accompany these, with the sauce complementing whatever is served on the platters? It is quite a large pot and that doesn't look like tea stains.
These pieces have simpler patterns, predominantly flowers, that appear distinct from nyonya and Bencharong decoration. Maybe as Shangri-la says, they are fore-runners in style, maybe there is another reason. All I am certain of is that they are, as Birgit says, part of the group of pieces specifically for the SE Asian Market.
Looks like tea residue. Or it could be wine
I refer to them as Straits. Others use different terms. But they all mean the same thing!
Phoenix is more desirable though. The bigger they are the better. Along with of course the brighter colours. Copies are being made. But they tend to be bland and too perfect decoration. You will never see a imperial/other dragon. This was taboo.
Birgit would be able to elaborate further as she collects these. I don't.
Mark
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