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It looks plastic or resin to be honest , the way it is carved and where the damage is look that way .
Carl
Have you tried a hot needle test in an inconspicuous place? I am not sure whether it is appropriate, but my feeling is that if it is valuable it won't be harmed. Hope someone can correct me if that is wrong.
Hi Carl and Julia,
I didn’t try a hot needle, but I did look at it with a loupe. I saw no “cross-hatching”, which you are supposed to see with ivory, so I think that can be ruled out. I compared it to a couple of supposedly ivory statues of the early 20th century, online, and I actually think the one I have is better. But almost assuredly not ivory, unless I don’t know how to find the crosshatching. So, that is all a bit confusing.
take it with a grain of salt
As Carl says, the chipped parts look like it is inorganic in origin? If you look at these under a loupe (especially the newer chip) plastic or resin will be completely smooth?
Equally, some organic materials are prone to splitting like drying wood. Like in Xin’s Photos?
Initially I was thrown by the striations on the base, but these can be added in the mould?
All these are guesses and to be taken with a pinch of salt!
Nic
Hi Xin, thanks for the picture. I see it. I didn’t know it was visible without magnification, so I guess I was not analyzing it correctly. I will look again tomorrow morning in the natural light.
Hi Nic, the damaged parts do seem smooth. The marks on the base don’t look like a natural part of the material. Not sure why that was done.
One question I have is if resin or plastic pieces are sometimes hand carved, because this piece almost definitely is. I suppose I should go google that question...
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
As I understand it, they carve a master copy from wood, use it to make a mould, and so every resin copy has the original carving lines and marks like the original?
Again, I’m not saying that’s the case here!
Nic
I still can't see cross-hatching on Xin's example. The base looks smooth on my screen. Or am I looking in the wrong place?
As your your figure, Todd, I wondered if it was moulded because of the poor definition of the pattern on the narrower portion underneath the part of the pedestal she is standing on - in the first picture. It is too worn to be natural wear when compared to the rest and it looks deliberate. If it were being done by hand, surely the artist would have put a bit more effort in?
There seem to be lots of little holes in the ridges of the pattern of her clothing, is that correct?
Julia
Hi Todd,
I concur with the sentiments that felloe members have expressed, especially that of Xin.
I an unable to determine if said item is resin or not based on the pictures provided by Todd as I an using a small screen phone.
Todd if you have access to a UV light the question of if or not can easily be put to rest.
All luorescence under a UV light will appear bluish-white. Bone and shell have a similar fluorescence to that of ivory. Vegetable ivory will appear slightly orange or warmer in tone.
Plastic and resin will appear s dull blue
It is a simple test that I and many others who deal with ivory/resin have used. The conclusion will be definable and conclusive.
I hope this will help you. I would be interested in the result.
Hi Todd,
I concur with the sentiments that felloe members have expressed, especially that of Xin.
I an unable to determine if said item is resin or not based on the pictures provided by Todd as I an using a small screen phone.
Todd if you have access to a UV light the question of if or not can easily be put to rest.
All luorescence under a UV light will appear bluish-white. Bone and shell have a similar fluorescence to that of ivory. Vegetable ivory will appear slightly orange or warmer in tone.
Plastic and resin will appear s dull blue
It is a simple test that I and many others who deal with ivory/resin have used. The conclusion will be definable and conclusive.
I hope this will help you. I would be interested in the result.
Hi Todd
Sorry my phone battery died and therefore unable to complete my post.
Along with my original post I would add the following.
If resin, it will be moulded and hence will have visual evidence that can be seen on the hands and feet along with the necklines where they meet with the other features. They will have glue like appearance when viewing using s loupe.
You need to carefully view where the hands are placed on the robe. Along with the neck meeting the robe and finally where the feet are placed on the base.
Evidence of pit holes and bubbles should also be seen somewhere on the item.
The above along with the UV light will determine what the material is.
Resin is moulded and not carved!
Using s UV light can be a little difficult if you have not used one before. This can be overcome by simply viewing a known resin item along with a known ivory or bone example. You will quickly see the difference.
At first glance I am inclined to believe your statue is not ivory but that of moulded resin.
Mark
There are different combinations of Resin. You can have alabaster and marble and Resin.
I got these Lamps yesterday and while these pictures are not the actual lamps I bought they are identical and made from the same Italian sculpture. A Santini. So you can see that the resin can be a combination of many different materials.
I then naturally wanted to research them and see what they were made of etc.
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It may well have been Sculpted or a combination of both and might well have a complicated resin mix. My examples are not the best so here is another A Santini Sculpture that he has sculpted by hand and that is a resin mix.
Hi Julia, For Xin’s pics, you have to zoom in as far as possible, then you will see the faint lines. Yes, as you say, there are little holes present.
Hi Mark, Thanks so much for taking the time to explain. I don’t have a UV light. I should get one, can’t be very expensive I presume. But something else you mentioned is probably definitive for resin. When I look with a loupe, I see very small bubbles, quite prevalent, in the grooves. They are visible to the naked eye, but just barely. This would identify it as resin, correct? I don’t see evidence of glue. I have another piece like this, in which the glue is abundantly clear.
I said I think it is hand carved, but I have very little experience with it, so perhaps I am just fooled by it. I have seen molded items that are modern, in which the hands look nothing like this, very blobby. There must be very different levels of quality in resin statues.
Hi Short, Thanks for the examples. I can see that resin can be made to look quite good. That is helpful.
All in all, I do really like it. Quite a nice reproduction for my taste. Too bad about the damage, but I got in on the cheap, so can’t complain.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
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