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Hi Todd,
Usually, if there is a metal collar to the tip these items are walking sticks. It stops the wear on the end. But it looks quite short?
Nic
Ah, right.
Maybe something ceremonial? Like the swagger sticks used by the military and young dandies in the Victorian era? Or a sceptre used in religious ceremonies? But, obviously, from a specific Asian culture?
Nic
The said item appears to have some age.
I do not believe your item is Chinese or Japanese or have any origins consistent with that of Asian decent.
The metal ring and the gradually slopping of said indicate to me that the item would have been attached to something else like walking stick or swagger that had already been disclosed by other members.
I have a suspicion that it has the hallmarks that may be of African decent.
Mark
Hi guys,
It doesn’t seem Asian does it? African is interesting. Sceptre is a nice word, Nic, I will use that in my searching. It just occurred to me a few minutes ago that there may have been a blade of some type attached? There does seem to be a niche for it. The metal piece does move up and down, could have been used to tighten it?
take it with a grain of salt
I think a handle for a bladed weapon of some kind is a strong possibility. It might be worth it to research it from that angle.
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I agree with Mark, it looks African. Maybe a machete handle?
I agree with Mark, it looks African. Maybe a machete handle?
Probably not a machete, machetes usually have very short handles.
There are alot of pictures on this link of bladed African weapons : http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=print_topic;f=8;t=008949
It might be useful to check with a light and a ruler (or some other thin object), how far in the opening extends. Longer bladed weapons usually have longer tangs, to secure the blade in the handle in a way so it doesn't break in a critical (life or death) situation.
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Hi Julia, the opening extends in about two inches. I also had thought it looked African. But have had second thoughts. The woman’s hair is very straight and her features don’t match well with African carvings. The hair makes me think Asian. But maybe an island? Bali or another? Just guessing still.
That’s a nice link, Michael, thanks.
take it with a grain of salt
Dear Todd,
Think you are on the right track. You posted a box a few weeks ago, that to my eye had an Oceania look to it.
Cheers
Michael
Todd,
Sorry should of added that after WW1. Japan was give mandate over a large area of Micronesia north of the equator former colonies of Germany. The items you are finding may have their origins in that area. Covers a huge geographic area hundreds of islands and many different cultures. You have your work cut out researching to identify exactly where the items come from and their age.
Cheers
Michael
That is very helpful Michael, I’ll do some searching with that new information in mind. For the bowl, I suppose the carvings are the key. Need to find similar ones on something else. I was able to figure out that its a trencher/dough bowl. Or at least is has that shape.
Best, Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Todd,
When I first saw your bowl I thought Papua New Guinea. The Japanese held mandate over what was German New Guinea. Both your items have a Sepik river look to them. Your bowl could have been used for sago. Although most sago bowls I have seen are more curvaceous in form. The square type bowls are sometimes referred to as betle nut mortars. I don't want to give the impression of any expertise in this area just book read plus the National Gallery of Victoria has a huge collection of objects from this region and I always have a look at the collection on show when I visit the Gallery. The stick or cane you have because of it metal ferrule won't have much age certainly after contact with the outside world. You have to find out if the bowl was carved using metal tools rather than stone, bone,or shell. But I guess the first job is to find the place or origin. Good luck.
Michael
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