BidAmount Asian Art News

Auctions Of Chinese and Asian Art, Auction Results News

  • Home
  • Weekly News Letter Page
  • The Forum
  • YouTube
  • plcombs Asian Art
    • Visit plcombs-Chinese-Asian Art
    • About, plcombs Chinese-Asian Art Antique Dealer | Massachusetts
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • A Few Site Pages
  • Recomended Books
  • Blog
  • Sign Up-Global Member Pages
  • Sign In-Global Member Pages
You are here: Home / The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.


Asian art booksBasic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum:  Talk about whatever you want.  You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic.  Maximum image file  size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube,  Vimeo etc.  

NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button. 

Forums
The FORUM List
Help Identify This
Imperial Flambe Vas...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Imperial Flambe Vase Qianlong?

 
Page 6 / 7 Prev Next
    Last Post
  RSS

 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 2:56 pm  

@ming1449 

you need more? it's a bit difficult to send them beacause I can only sent max file size of 2 MB


   
ReplyQuote
 Ming1449
(@ming1449)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 2704
18/04/2022 3:09 pm  

@scauctions 

HI SC SC - 

If possible, could post some base and footrim images? ...

Stuart 

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 3:30 pm  

@ming1449 

Yes I will convert the photo's smaller. First of all the inside

inside left side

 


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 3:32 pm  

@ming1449

inside right side

 


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 3:35 pm  

@ming1449 

This is the mark at the base


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 3:38 pm  

@ming1449

mark

 


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 3:44 pm  

@ming1449

Footrim

Well what do you think about it?

Looking forward to hear from you,

Kind Regards,

SC

 


   
ReplyQuote
 SC SC
(@scauctions)
Active Member
Joined: 3 years ago
Posts: 11
18/04/2022 4:09 pm  

@ming1449 

You received the photo's?

Kind regards,

SC


   
ReplyQuote
Yin Hall
 Yin Hall
(@yinchris)
Noble Member
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 584
18/04/2022 9:18 pm  

Mark: 葛明祥制 - Ge Mingxiang Zhi

 


   
Julia, Ming1449 and Sharon P reacted
ReplyQuote
 Ming1449
(@ming1449)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 2704
19/04/2022 1:07 am  

@scauctions 

Hi SC SC - 

Apologies for the delayed reply ...

Looking at the additional images, I would think this dates to 2nd half 20th century - at best ...

The unglazed base, glaze characteristics to the outer footrim edge, lack of ware to such, rounded/thickend mouthrim and overall proportions may indicate such a dating ...

But just my thoughts and I could well be wrong - so let's wait to hear others opinions ...

Stuart 


   
Sharon P, SC SC and Julia reacted
ReplyQuote
Yin Hall
 Yin Hall
(@yinchris)
Noble Member
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 584
19/04/2022 7:54 am  

Agreed with Stuart. Here is some information:

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/20489/lot/621/


   
Julia and Ming1449 reacted
ReplyQuote
 Ming1449
(@ming1449)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 2704
19/04/2022 1:27 pm  

@scauctions - 

Hi SC SC - 

Yin @yinchris is quite correct, the four character 'Ge Ming Xiang Zhi' mark is the name of a Yixing potter active during the Qianlong period ...

Number 1561 in Gerald Davison's  'Marks on Chinese Ceramics' publication ...

Stuart 


   
Sharon P reacted
ReplyQuote
 Thomas Johnson
(@thomasumjohnson)
Honorable Member
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 411
Topic starter 07/06/2022 12:47 pm  

@ming1449 Hi Yin, I'm surprised to see this post has been taken up again a year after the original post, with a different vase to my one.  I don't know if you were part of the original discussion, but I have noticed that the original vase that I started this post with is the number 1 Google image search result for imperial flambe vase, also it's in the top 5 or 6 image search results for qianlong flambe vase and a few other related searches. (Qianlong flambe Hu vase etc).  I'm still of the opinion to that it's 18th century.  I have had many people look at it over the last year and they all have differing opinions, however they seem to be in agreement that the signs of age and wear are natural and not simulated, the vase is old, not a modern copy or fake.   A similar Hu flambe vase went up for sale at Christie's a few weeks ago for 80-120,000 but didn't sell, so I think the market must have thought it was not of the period.  The  colour of the masks is wrong to me, the dark brown porcelain is supposed to be mushroom coloured.  When looking at my vase it has a very mushroom colour the masks.  Anyway there seems to be a lot of interest in it, and as I say I was surprised how prominent it is on Google searches.  Just wandering what you're thoughts are on it.  Theres's a lot of discussion and detailed photos at the beginning of this post.  Here's a link to the Christie's vase that didn't sell

https://www.christies.com/lot/lot-6367046

Its of the same size as mine, but the most similar to it is this one, which sold for 180,000 in 2006, before the major explosion in asian art prices..

https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2006/fine-chinese-ceramics-and-works-of-art-hk0229/lot.1604.html

 

There's a better photo of it here

http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2018/10/02/36753369.html

 

The alain truong post starts with another Hu vase that didn't sell, so I'm assuming there were some doubts about it's authenticity also.

 

This post was modified 3 years ago 4 times by Thomas Johnson

   
Sharon P reacted
ReplyQuote
 Ming1449
(@ming1449)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 2704
08/06/2022 2:45 am  

@thomasumjohnson 

Hi Thomas - 

You are correct, I did not comment on your original vase ...

Having re-read all the posts, I would concur with the comments posted by Giovanni, Yin, Brian, Greeno and others ...

Your vase is not an Imperial Qianlong piece but a 19th or, possibly, later copy of such IMO ...

I note that you say it has been seen/handled by 'many people over the last year' yet there still appears to be no consensus on date, although all agree the ware is natural and it seems to have some 'age' ...

As for why the Christies example failed to sell, this could be due to numerous factors including damage/restoration, if any, estimate rang, or doubts on authenticity due to overall shape/proportions, weight, glaze texture, footrim/base and/or mark writting ...

How the piece 'feelt' when handled, for those who know such 'differences', would also have been a critical factor ...

Stuart 

 

 

 


   
johnshoe, Julia, William Huvar and 1 people reacted
ReplyQuote
 Thomas Johnson
(@thomasumjohnson)
Honorable Member
Joined: 4 years ago
Posts: 411
Topic starter 31/08/2022 7:25 am  

The ware on this vase couldn't be later than C19.  I'm still convinced it's period.. 

2front++
IMG 0282++
IMG 0054++
IMG 0334++

 


   
ReplyQuote
Page 6 / 7 Prev Next
Forum Jump:
  Previous Topic
Next Topic  
Related Topics
  • A miniature celadon and oxblood vase. Asian?
    8 months ago
  • Famille Vase bought recently
    8 months ago
  • Jun ware fishbowl date?
    12 months ago
  • Chinese Doucai Vase Qianlong Mark
    1 year ago
  • Archaic style vessel
    1 year ago
Topic Tags:  flambe (7) , vase (68) , qianlong (17) , imperial (2) ,

Notice

Weekly Video’s on You Tube, Subscribe Today!

Bidamount on Youtube asian Art news

Hundreds of Online Auction Catalogs

Chinese Art Auction Catalogs

Blog Archive

Global Auction “member pages”, get them all in just one place.

chinese porcelain auctions

Join our weekly newsletter for current eBay Asian Art Listings

Newsletter Sign Up
For Email Newsletters you can trust.

Get Our Thoughts On Any Auction Listing Anywhere, BEFORE You Bid

asian art auction

Click to View the News Letter Page

Asian Art News

Recent Posts

  • Pierre Le-Tan Auction Chinese, Japanese and Islamic Art Paris
  • Investing in Chinese Art Versus Collecting Chinese Art
  • Later Chinese Bronzes of the Song to Qing Dynasty
  • Asia Week In New York City September 2020 The Auctions
  • Japanese and Chinese Art Collection of Brian Page At Ma San Auctioneers
  • Bidit Auctions Fakes of Chinese Art In Marietta Georgia | Opinion
Click Here
Share:
  Forum Statistics
8 Forums
12.3 K Topics
91 K Posts
37 Online
7,685 Members

Latest Post: Fakes being passed as authentic on eBay Migu Larry Chinese virtual UKseller Our newest member: Karen Schneider Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags

Forum Icons: Forum contains no unread posts Forum contains unread posts

Topic Icons: Not Replied Replied Active Hot Sticky Unapproved Solved Private Closed

Powered by wpForo  Powered by wpForo version 2.4.5

Super Globals

Options and Features



Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"

If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.

Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.

Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects.  As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.

Thank you,

Peter Combs


Topics and categories on  The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes. 

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube.  Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings. 

Ancient Chinese Art - Ancient History Encyclopedia

The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.

Arts of Asia | The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston

The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...

Chinese Art: Characteristics, History - Art Encyclopedia

Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.

China Online Museum - Chinese Art Galleries: Home

China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.

Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art | Christie's

Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...

Fine Chinese Paintings | Christie's

Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...

Asian Art Week | New York | September 2019 | Christie's

Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.

Chinese Art from The Art Institute of Chicago | Christie's

Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...

Chinese Art in Hong Kong: A Brief ... - Christie's Education

Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.

The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art ...

The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.

Chinese Art | Sotheby's

The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...

Chinese Art Auctions - Chinese Paintings ... - Sothebys.com

Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.

Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art

Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Paintings and Works of Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.

Bonhams : Asian Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.

Bonhams | Asian Art in London

Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map

Bonhams : Asian Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.

Bidamount is a member of the eBay partner network, eBay is a registered trademark of eBay Inc. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the Bidamount User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Bidamount, 185 Main Street Suite B., Gloucester, Ma. all content © 2006–2025

proudly powered by WordPress | web design by smallfish-design

‹›×

    ‹›×