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Hello,
I have this very convincing Flambe vase. It seems to be 18th century and has a Qianlong mark with a convincing brown wash overy the seal. I can;t see any reason why it isn't authentic. The only thing is that it seems very dry, especially the white areas, is this something in the glaze that seems to dry out my fingers after touching it for a minute or two..
Can anyone help? It
thanks in advance,
Tom
Hi Tom,
A warm welcome to the forum!
This isn't something I know much about but I was a little alarmed about what you said regarding parts of the glaze. Do you mean it feels dry to the touch, or that it is actually affecting your skin after you have touched it?
I haven't heard that before, but if it is the case, I hope you wash your hands after touching it, just in case. Sorry if that is stating the obvious, but I couldn't not say it! 😊
Julia
Hi Tom, welcome to the forum. Though I’m no monochrome expert the bottom looks wrong to me. Qianlong potters tried to make the bottom as nice as possible but this, sorry to say it, is a mess. The old looking paper labels are often used on fakes. Also the waterfall of the glaze coming out of the handles look strange to me, but maybe it’s just a feature I haven’t seen before.
Birgit
The coloration of the glaze seems bizarre. The shiny base looks brand new. The paste on the foot doesn't seem to have anywhere near the quality of an Imperial piece. The stickers seem deliberately applied. Everything about this looks like a modern fake. Please tell us where you obtained it and what the seller claimed about it.
This is not a Imperial Qainlong piece. Forgeries can have some age. The glaze and base are off the mark is no Imperial mark the slopes in the mark me think it’s a modern copy. Here is a comparison of your vase
Hello,
The paste to me seems very "snow white" as Peter would say and also very dense. It also looks neatly cut to me. Perhaps I should give up collecting as, to me, the paste was one of the most convincing factors that led to me buying it.. Is there something I'm missing?
thanks for the input..
@shinigami hello, yes the waterfall is quite different from the other examples I've seem, especially the biscuit showing through. I think it's a very good effect, quite 3 dimensional and more like a cascade than others I've seen. I seem to be a bit clueless regarding the base, because I thought this was a good example, neat and nice and white / dense.. so I guess I need to go back to the drawing board or give up collecting. Even if it is a fake I like it a lot.. it has a very nice feel to it.
@lotusblack `Thanks Brian, there are some slopes in the mark on this one. Is this what you mean?
Dear Tom,
welcome to the forum. How big is the vase?
Please post a picture of the whole base/foot, from the top and also angled from one side, so to be possible to judge the shape and potting. Also a picture of the rim.
Not Qianlong, but it could be a 19th century copy. Let see and hope.
Regards,
Giovanni
Also a side picture of the handles. Are them representing an elephant mask?
Hi Thomas, did we look at the same vase bottom? I see a brown bottom with a very uneven surface. As Giovanni said, more pictures would be helpful.
Birgit
@clayandbrush Hello Giovanni,
Thanks for the response. The vase is between 25 and 26cm tall, so the same size as the other qianlong Hu vases of this shape.
The rim is a little bit wonky and it's difficult to judge the colour of the porcelain from the colour balance of my camera. As you can see the foot seems a bit yellow from the first photo of the base, but it is much whiter like in the close ups of the foot from a side view..
Yes they are Elephant masks. I'll try and upload some more pictures..
thanks again,
Tom
@shinigami thanks for the response. Yes there is an uneven brown wash or finish to the bottom. It seems like there were a lot of different types of washes applied to the imperial flambe vases. The wash on the one I have is much like the one on this vase:
The vase I have also has the shallower sections as the darker brown and the higher sections getting paler to the pale brown, the same as the Garlic vase seal in the link above. It's hard to see in the photos..
here's a screen shot from the christie's vase that sold for a lot, from the link I put in this thread, showing the authentic imperial brown washed seal mark, used on some of the flambe vases
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