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JRN
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27/11/2020 4:38 am  

Michael,

I appreciate the kindness in your words, (and referencing a great song). 

Often times I do feel a little guilty for writing a “micro-thesis” per post.
I’m not on here as often as I wish, but do like to try to add some robust discussion.. especially when it comes to those “just starting out”, or needing more than a quickly made answer.  

(Sorry if the below posts in bold, on my phone and having issues with such recently)..

For some (optional) further explanation: 
 
While it’s not my intention to roll around laughing giving personal input or opinions by using incorrect grammatical syntax as suggested:
I can see how it causes confusion to some perhaps (and forgive me if so).
 
Usually there’s a starting point, which is further followed by expansion/or/articulation of the stated idea.
I do this this to add comprehensive insight (and explaining why I stated such), as I feel sometimes there’s a lot of opinions added without clarification per why they were made/reached.
Most of the time, I like to reference the initial claim/point made to add a closure (or reiterate ideas).
 
While I will make sure to refine & reduce such happenings: I’ll use the example of this post.
(Although I don’t wish to add more difficulty/length; perhaps adding some explanation will assist for referencing).
 
I felt Mark was largely correct on what he said, but also wanted to add some further details.
Since John is a newer member (and eagerly starting out), he might have wanted to get the most return for his possible investment.
Starting out, we’re often overwhelmed enough with learning.
There’s a lot to absorb in the passionate early days surrounding yourself with this; and we might not yet be at a point to decipher the differences of auction values vs retail values (or the respective markets complimented by these sources of buying/selling).
 
The secondary post was to illustrate that sometimes prices realized can be deceiving; but Mark did a favour by sourcing a related example - and I felt that shouldn’t be discredited/called outright incorrect; especially when he could be equally correct on certain current occasions, too.
 
The auction market has highs and lows any day, and his values/references could still be applicable.
 
With wanting to add insight, I know 2008 was also the worst time for the global art market in a long time.
Ideally, it also aimed at highlighting a larger theme (in helping fellow buyers/sellers) of checking the sale as a whole & using contextual clues when referencing prices. 
 
All-in-all, I apologize for any difficulty for all members with deciphering/translating posts (or my unusual thought progression) in general. 
Additionally, I thank you for taking the time to let me know Todd.
I do not wish to add negative deterrents, or hinder contributions relevantly (and positively) made to assist a great community of passionate people.
 
Best,
-JRN
This post was modified 5 years ago 2 times by JRN

   
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27/11/2020 5:30 am  

Thank you @Brettm (Michael). Now I have the version by D. Springfield in my head.🤔

Haven't heard that song in years! 😊

Mark 


   
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Watership
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27/11/2020 6:20 am  

Hi JRN,

I have spent quite a while this morning trying to understand why you write in this fashion. Its very unusual. (By the way, this last post above was much better for my personal comprehension. Not sure if it was intentional, but for me, it is better). 

My thoughts have gone to something that I have a bit of, which is OCD. Personally, I’ve mostly controlled it in my own life, and have even put it to use. When I am practicing a song on the guitar, for example, I can play the same one for a couple of hours straight, maybe fifty times. In the end, as opposed to forcing myself to play it again, its more that I have to force myself to stop. 

So, in reading your posts, I begin each sentence thinking that maybe this sentence will be more easily understood. But invariably, it becomes convoluted, to my point of view. The lack of exceptions to this occurrence made me think maybe OCD is involved. An uncontrollable urge to add more and more to each thought. Not sure if that is the best way to explain it, but maybe you understand my meaning.  Not to get too personal, don’t feel the need to divulge anything that you would rather not. Just a thought I had. I have no idea if that has any validity. Could be some perfectionism involved also. Or not.  

Honestly, if I didn’t reign it in, I think I might write in a similar fashion to you. Sometimes I feel a love for the words, if that’s a way to explain it, and it could easily get out of hand. 

When I read your posts this morning, I was nearly convinced it was intentional. I thought, he must know that this is not comprehensible. (Not the entire post, just parts).  But if one is unfamiliar with Tourette’s, for example, they might think that is intentional too. The mind is a fascinating thing, and no two are close to the same. (Not to imply that you have Tourette’s of the pen...)

I have never been annoyed...maybe a tad frustrated on occasion, at most. 

If there is some confusion, please don’t write shorter posts with less information. 

And no apologies necessary. (Except possibly on my end). 

Hi Michael,

Nice poem!

I am not concerned with length of posts. In fact I prefer them long.  Its just that, I feel, people are missing out on potentially valuable information that JRN is able to provide. This is the reason I never joined Twitter and never will. The character limit pretty much flies in the face of what I think matters. But to believe someone can change their style of writing to suit me is perhaps unrealistic at best 😋 

take it with a grain of salt


   
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Topic starter 27/11/2020 9:58 am  

@jrn  I found your response to my post informative and helpful. Being new to all of this I appreciate the advice and tips for buying and selling wisely. I imagine that more seasoned collectors might take certain information as a given already because they have the knowledge and experience, so having things over-explained might seem unnecessary to them. But to me, it is still often new information, so I welcome the enhanced feedback when people feel it is relevant. Cheers!  John


   
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27/11/2020 12:31 pm  

@brettm I agree and lest we forget, "someone left the cake out in the rain and I'll never have that recipe again." I enjoy the information and I have the time and inclination to think about ceramics.


   
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Sharon P
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27/11/2020 12:37 pm  

@jrn "don't go changing."


   
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27/11/2020 12:52 pm  

Yes Sharon, but Billy Joel divorced that wife and married Christie Brinkley 🤣

take it with a grain of salt


   
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27/11/2020 4:29 pm  

@watership I knew there had to be a reason I like Journey better than Billy Joel, "Faithfully."


   
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