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Hello, guys again, after that controversy I created in the last post about that Qianlong bowl, With the blessings of Allah, I Found another piece, and guess what now? it's a Chenghua children's cup, the owner said it was discovered by an antique dealer in an old house some time ago, and his friend bought it and leave it with him with other stuff.
I know this type of cup is not copied over if ever as the Chicken cup, I did my research and barely find one or two but they are in the shape of the chicken cup(flat bottom).
can you share your thoughts and ideas about this bowl?
I did send it to Mr.Peter Combs but he still didn't reply, does any one of you have his phone number? I tried the one on the contact page and no one pick up the phone.
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Ibrahim,
I know Peter injured his hand recently and the response times have increased, he will likely get back to you, just it may take 4-5 days.
I am no expert, but the color of the paste looks off and the colors seem a bit off to me, the cobalt is not what I think of tone wise, that may be the lack of contrast and dim lighting of the photos though.
Im sure someone with way more knowledge will come along and help you out better.
Cheers,
Jeremy
check your spam inbox also, last time, because he started sending video it went to spam and I thought he forgot!
Well, a quick search for a Chenghua doucai 'children at play' cup pulled up one example at the Cleveland Museum. Compare...
The box you have it in is new, but ignoring the box.... the colors are definately lack the vibrance of Imperial porcelain, lacks subtle details in the design, and the shades of blue are not a match to Cleveland's cup.
@sadog95
Hi Ibrahim -
Tim is quite correct, the overall painting and detailing within, enamel tones, footrim/base finish and execution of the mark all indicates this is a modern copy ...
Copies of such doucai ‘boys playing’ cups were made from the Jiajing period, so mid 16thC, onwards ...
I will forward some images tomorrow for comparison ...
Stuart
@sadog95
Hi Ibrahim -
Attached images for comparison:-
Images 1/2/3:- Chenghua mark/period doucai cup, Gugong, Palace Museum, Beijing ...
Images 4/5/6:- Jiajing mark/period doucai copy of this shape and design, Gugong, PM, Beijing ...
Image 7:- Chenghua m/p doucai cup, National Palace Museum, Taipei ...
Images 8:- Jiajing m/p doucai copy of this of this shape/design, NPM, Taipei ...
Stuart
@sodog95
Hi Ibrahim and all -
With apologises, caption should read as follows:-
‘Images 7/8:- Chenghua m/p doucai cup, National Palace Museum, Taipei’ ...
‘Image 9:- Jiajing m/p doucai copy of this shape/design, NPM Taipei ...
The NPM, Taipei have two Jiajing copies of the Chenghua originals ...
Stuart
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