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It is about 14 1/8 inches wide. The base of the foot rim is very smooth (the good stuff always seems to have a very smooth foot rim base).
Trying to attach more photos is getting an internal server error, so lets see what this looks like
It won't let me upload any more photos at the moment (even though they are under 2mb), so this will have to do for now. I'll try later!
It won't let me upload any more photos at the moment (even though they are under 2mb), so this will have to do for now. I'll try later!
If you're looking for a good free program for photo editing, I've heard good things about GIMP.
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Hi Avionson -
Thank you for all the time - and effort - taken to post these ...
A most interesting piece - the motifs elements used and overall composition have strong connections with Daoist imagery/meanings ...
Will check through my data base and references and revert when collated ...
Not Kangxi - undoubtedly Ming, probably mid 16th century - late Jiajing to early Wanli - approx 1550-1580 ...
Stuart
Hi Stuart, that may be why I have trouble dating this item - I've had very few mid 16th century pieces in my hands.
I can disqualify it as 19th Century, and Qianlong...…….that took me back to Kangxi, and I lack the expertise to go much further back into time.
I'd really like to show the back, foot rim etc, but I seem to have broken the picture upload feature!
I may try another thread and see if that makes a difference
Hi Avionsumantiques,
The reason why you can’t upload more pictures is that they are too much heavy. More than 1 MB each one! I really don’t understand the reason for allowing to upload such big pictures, which is costly for the server, when a picture weighting one tenth of that are more than enough.
Said that, I am impressed by this bowl, really nice and so big!
Stuart of course is right, Jiajing/Wanli, often really hard to be more precise, the attribution can be either reign.
Very nice bowl.
Regards
Giovanni
I havn't given up just yet - I put some pics onto pinterest to see if they can be copied here - curious to see if this works!
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/762234305666390979/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/762234305666391008/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/762234305666391024/
https://www.pinterest.ca/pin/762234305666391000/
That sort of worked.
The part I find interesting is the asymmetry of the mark within the double circles. Given how well decorated the rest of the bowl is, this asymmetry may well be intentional - and I'm curious as to why
Hi Avionsun
Definitely mid 16th century Jiajing/early Wanli but - as Giovanni mentions - extremely difficult to date more precisely due to the fact that all these motif combinations were used in both periods. Nicely painted with good strong blue tones, which some would use to indicate a Jiajing dating, but such strong blues are also seen on early Wanli pieces, and the ‘Fu gui jia qi’ mark is found on wares from both periods - and was especially popular during Wanli.
Although damaged, its a very nice, impressive piece ...
Is it part of your own collection ..?!
Stuart
With help from Giovanni and others, I finally seem to have created pictures small enough to manage - many thanks.
Yes, its one of mine (I seek authenticity first, and condition second - I have no issues owning damaged authentic examples).
Hi Avionsun -
Attached images of a large Jiajing m/p double-gourd vase - H. 44.3 cm - from the NPM Museum, Taipei, and a large Wanli m/p bowl - D. 30.5 cm - private collection, Hong Kong, for painting style and motif comparison with your bowl ...
Stuart
Also this very large dish - D. 43.3 cm - which is attributed to the Jiajing period, from the Art Gallery, The Chinese University of Hong Kong. Although this is a product from the ‘minyao’ or private kilns, it is well painted and displays several different blue tones ...
Such dishes were exported in large numbers, especially to the Middle East ...
Stuart
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