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That’s a really nice early 20th century plaque would look great on any wall in the house.
Didn't someone say: green eyed dragons are Guangxu or later?
It was Mark in relation to a saucer I own and it was the similarity that made me think 19th c.
Although, as Mark says the dragon is different to the usual style, we recently saw different styles on the same piece in a recent thread so it does seem to be likely to be from then.
The dragon is to animated for Kangxi period dragon. I have seen this style of dragon before it was dated 19th to 20th century. Here are two dragons to compare.
@thomasumjohnson sorry to chime in so late. The rendering looks very deliberate, and in many ways quite nice, but the dragon’s rendering is odd…. I can’t quite explain that at the moment.
What I can say is your photos aren’t clear enough nor close enough to look at the texture of the enamels.
Can you post close up photos in bright light (natural if possible) of some details of the face of the dragon, fish, yellow areas, and the unglazed back?
The rendering of scaling reminds me of a polychrome pair of phoenixes that I bought a few years ago that I showed to several well respected dealers, and the general consensus was first half of the 20th c.
@greeno107 Thanks for sharing an interest. I got the Plaque Yesterday. Here are some more photos, with a better colour rendition. The colour in the photos looks almost right to me although perhaps a little more brown in the yellows in real life.. Also photos of the back..
@thomasumjohnson Unfortunately, I don’t really see any improvement to your photos.
You need to photograph it in very bright light, such as direct sunlight. Close up photos of the enamel should be taken about 8” away, focus on details of the face and yellow background, and take one shot of the front of the plaque held at an angle so I can see the texture of the enamel.
I would also like to see the edge of the plaque.
Good luck!
@greeno107 OK.. I've taken these with my phone because I can't get closer with my "real" camera lens... Thanks again for taking an interest..
There are similarities to this Famille Jaune beast brush washer..
Thank you for additional pictures I didn’t realize the plaque was so large. I’m going to move my original opinion to 2nd half 20th century or maybe later. The enamels are all off. The large size is not typical for early periods. The rendering is not consistent this was intended to be a presentation piece but zero shading. No edge fritting contraction the plaque is also very uniform no warping seems and corners perfectly aligned. That would be very hard for such a large piece of the period in a wood fire kiln.
Hello, Thomas
In my thoughts from the way the dragon and the way the clouds look it’s late 19th, or early 20th century, John
@john-steward I’m very curious as to your reference to this being a 19th century rendering of a dragon. I don’t think I ever seen a dragon rendering incorrectly and missing parts. If you look closer the wrapping of the dragons body is incorrect and going in the wrong direction the body is not consistent with any early dragon form. I would love to see a comparison if you have one,
Brian, you are right, the scales do look to be in the wrong direction on the first coil behind the head. How interesting! I don't see any bits missing though, as the clouds obscure the body in places.
There is shading, the dots and lines were often used to give depth and the eyes are also typically Guangxu. However, as has been said before, the scales are not the typical Guangxu type, but we did see two different types of dragon scales on a piece from that period fairly recently. I remember we commented on the difference in that thread only I can't remember what it was called otherwise I would look it up.
I am also surprised it is that big, that does seem less common although most modern (fake) plaques that I have seen have a ridged back of sorts, not flat.
@thomasumjohnson Thank you! Those photos are helpful.
First, it’s a nice looking plaque, but be careful not to draw comparisons with Kangxi mark & period works… only some elements of the style look Kangxi, and if I recall correctly, you don’t think it’s actually Kangxi period.
If we’re looking to identify the true age, then aspects that Brian and Julia have mentioned should be considered important.
The finished edges, absence of ridges on the back from supports used in early firing, and the unusual rendering of the dragon all point to a more recent creation date than late 19th - early 20th c.
I would put the date around 1970, a period where some excellent commemorative pieces were made.
@julia the dragon is a 3 legged dragon that’s what’s missing the artist wasn’t skilled enough to understand the correct placement I have read that modern artist have a hard time correctly drawing dragons almost all modern dragon have this trait. The clouds are also not correct thick black lines they are stiff and uncoordinated. If I am shown one 19th dragon painted in this style I would be happy to adjust my opinion the more I look at it the more I see inconsistencies.
I don't think the missing leg is an issue, it would be back behind the rear one, not forward of it. I do find the rear one has poor perspective, it is very big. I can't decide if that is deliberate.
I am going to have to find that thread and look at the other dragon, again.
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