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Dear Julia, very interesting what you have spotted. There are a lot of drippings upwards, only on the green enamel.
I can’t explain what happened. I do not think that the vase has been fired upside down. Very strange.
May be it has been re-fired? Hmmm… don’t know, but something strange happened here.
Giovanni
Concerning the green dripping enamel...could it be that the artist applied the green enamel with the vase standing on its head, and it dripped pre-firing? He may have thought, that if it dripped a bit, it would be preferable to have it run up, as opposed to dripping down the vase....where it would have gone over the border and into the red, which would be worse. Just theorizing.
take it with a grain of salt
Thanks both of you for getting back to me.
I wondered at first if it had been fired upside down but it seemed a strange thing to do.
I also considered whether it was applied later (so it could be upside down) in order to hide some damage, it seemed possible because the red pattern underneath does not appear equal width all the way around and it has a couple of scratches where I would not expect wear. But then I realised there are black lines guiding the green area so maybe it was part of the pattern and more relevantly perhaps, I noticed that some of the other green areas are also smudged upwards.
That really only leaves Todd's idea. Is that possible? The green seems quite thick, but then one might expect those slabs of green foliage to also have run.
Julia
I think that I may know what happened.
At the beginning I did exclude that the vase was fired upside down because the foot is not glazed and the mouth is glazed, as usual. Then it must have been fired in standup position.
But the fact is that these polychrome overglaze items are fired two times.
The first time is for having the body, covered with the transparent glaze, become porcelain through an high temperature firing of about 1350 degrees Celsius.
Then, after cooling, the overglaze enamels are applied and the item goes back to the kiln where it is fired again but at lower temperature, about 850 degrees Celsius.
At this point, actually, it makes no difference if it is fired upside down or not, because the glaze of the mouth will not melt due to the lower temperature.
This must have been the case here. The reason for only having the dripping on the green enamel is due to the fact that it is the thicker enamel and it has more tendency to run. The green is usually a copper-based enamel, and it is known that has such tendency.
Regards,
Giovanni
Thank you for the explanation, Giovanni. That must be what happened.
Best wishes,
Julia
Dear Siseno,
Lovely vase! I do think it's genuine late 19th C and I must admit I find it highly attractive! Is it possible you could take and share some close-ups pictures, please?
Kind regards,
Adrian
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