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Julia, yes, that is the one. And look at photo 8 which shows the red running upside down on the inside of the foot rim. Also, in my opinion my vase’s reflectiveness is like that one and the glaze itself looks the same. Definitely the foot is definitely different but the glaze is showing on the inside of the foot rim I believe.
I'm afraid I still see glaze that has pooled underneath and the vase has sat on. It looks to have been trimmed off afterwards which perhaps makes it look like it has run upwards like yours but logically that doesn't make sense.
Sure I may be wrong, as much as anything, I am not at all convinced if that one on ebay is authentic. All I can say is that my first comments that the running up of the glaze was suspicious, the base looks odd and that it is highly reflective have all been echoed by other members who know more than I do.
Not sure what to do on this vase. Mineral spirits shouldn’t remove slip, right? But will mineral spirits remove the slip where the glaze was not applied? I know it’s not a $10000 vase, but still don’t want to mess it up.
Well, if mineral spirits removed some material from the base, then that material was never fired in a kiln. Slip by definition is liquified clay that can be used to attach clay vessel parts to be fired together or used to coat a clay vessel for later firing. After firing, slip coatings would not be affected by mineral spirits. You have to ask yourself why this non-fired material was applied to your vase. My guess is that it is hiding some flaw or damage.
Your later picture of the hole clearly shows it was not punched out before firing. Pictures that are slightly out of focus or the color balance is off just add to the confusion of sorting out what is going on with a piece.
@centralpapottery Try nail polish remover on the stuff on the base that is not part of the kiln baked glaze, put some on a cotton ball and see if the extra stuff comes off. Try it on the inside of base rim drip to see if it will come off. To me, it does not look the same as the glaze. Whether new or old, it would be interesting to see what the base was supposed to look like before someone's experiment made it a hot mess. Sharon
It does come off, so my thought is to try to get it all off with mineral spirits.. if that’s ok? The nail polish is not doing great, but is taking the “paint” off slowly. The unglazed part above the nice glaze line underneath is getting smeared with red, but hopefully it will come clean with mineral spirits. By the way, the non-original old wood base had CHINA underneath. I forgot who asked, but the thick part at the base to which I was referring is the pooling of the glaze, not the porcelain.
CentralPA, do not be afraid of affecting the glaze or the porcelain.
You can soak it in mineral spirits or acetone for days, no problems at all. I even use paint stripper in the hard cases, never had problems.
Giovanni
Question… The foot of the vase on Invaluable “Lot 305 19C Chinese Porcelain Flambé Oxblood Globular Vase” a different situation than mine? Is that one new, as well? I’ve heard of the brown rim, but not brown foot rim. Thanks Giovanni, I will not worry about harming the vase with acetone, etc.
You should post a link, otherways it is difficult to find it
Giovanni
Does anyone else feel that the shape is off, or is it just me? I find it to be awkward and clunky looking, as well as the color of the glaze not looking right. I am in the category of thinking this one is a modern fake. But even if it has a some age, I find it to be rather unappealing either way.
@johnshoe I think the proportions are more aesthetically pleasing than the squat looking one that sold for 978.00 (could be the photo that gives the stunted appearance), but it is only a matter of personal taste, it must have been an attractive lamp even without great age, who can fathom why someone was willing to part with over 1,000, they must have thought it was genuinely old.
I do believe my vase is genuinely old, at least 100 years. The cameraman is not so good. Look at the foot now. I left the right side with a little red paint they put on to show the contrast. It’s like they filled in with red all the places the thick glaze did not reach. No idea why. I like it like this. However, I didn’t notice many selling right now that look like this with the thick glaze so that does trouble me.
I agree. Still thoughts of being newer or possible age? Hopefully here is a better picture of the form.
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