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Any tips for cinnabar snuff bottles and why are some orange looking?

 
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03/09/2021 12:29 pm  

@greeno107 I just looked her up, her name was Kate Brewington Bennett and she was not applying arsenic to her face but ingesting a small amount every day as part of her beauty regimen, as it gave her a marble like complexion and as his last gift to her, her husband gave her a marble tomb, died at 37 from arsenic poisoning. Probably a safe bet that ingestion of arsenic would play havoc with your reasoning abilities. 🤔 


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 1:32 pm  

@greeno107 so Tim what’s your thoughts on this piece. Modern or authentic?

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03/09/2021 2:19 pm  

@lotusblack It looks right... late 19th c. to early 20th c.


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 2:38 pm  

@greeno107 so worth the $100 bucks?


   
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03/09/2021 3:06 pm  

@lotusblack Honestly, I don't know - I am among the cinnibar snobs...I just don't buy that style as to me it looks to muddy in color, and the carving is not sufficiently artistic.


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 3:44 pm  

@greeno107 well one day I hope to be snotty but for now I’m just entry level. It will make a good study piece and he gave me 25 percent off.

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03/09/2021 4:17 pm  

@lotusblack,

Hi Brian,

Whilst I am not an expert on cinnabar I feel that it's likely to be from the early 20th century. Rather than the late Qing period.

If it's indeed genuine cinnabar then I think the price you paid for it is cheap in my opinion.

Mark 


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 4:36 pm  

@imperialfinegems I did your acetone test does this look right?

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03/09/2021 4:41 pm  

@lotusblack You can always try sticking a hot pin in it as well. That will also tell you. 


   
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03/09/2021 4:43 pm  

@greeno107 I encountered a few recently that appeared like they were just painted over carved wood. It seemed like lacquer, but I suspected it was just a thin layer over the wood that was the carved part. Is that a thing they do? 


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 4:50 pm  

@johnshoe I’m not trying to smoke arsenic today. Lol Anyways aren’t the layers a good thing?

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03/09/2021 5:14 pm  

@lotusblack I say smoke em if you got em.


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 5:15 pm  

@johnshoe I do live in Colorado 


   
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03/09/2021 5:16 pm  

@lotusblack There you go. When in Rome....


   
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Topic starter 03/09/2021 10:16 pm  

Very informative video

https://www.pbs.org/video/appraisal-chinese-cinnabar-lacquer-vase-ca-1825-xt5j3p/


   
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