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Was this a Qianlong M&P guan/ge-type just sold at SKINNER for a bargain (Spink & Son sticker to base)?
I've seen a Yongzheng M&P crackle-glazed vase in a similar shape sold at auction - same height also. Footring seems correct. I know of one Chinese vase estimated at $500 and sold for a little more at Skinner that appeared at Christie's soon after but this time with a $1,000,000 estimate. That one had a John Sparks sticker and that provenance was noted in the Christie's sale.
Might be an idea with a link to the vase sold at Christie's. https://www.christies.com/lotfinder/Lot/a-fine-ge-type-glazed-cylindrical-vase-yongzheng-5379565-details.aspx
A few years ago as you might recall, a bevy of monochromes flooded into the market with stickers all over them from important dealers, some with receipts. While nobody I know at Skinners has the knowledge and where with all to authenticate Chinese porcelain beyond common wares, a lot of very sharp dealers from England, France, Hong Kong and the Mainland do attend Skinner's auctions. So I find it hard to believe this slipped through the cracks at such a low price. It's possible I guess, but not terribly likely, unless they had a MASSIVE pool on the object. Nobody or very few pay any attention to Skinner's opinions on items. Dealers and collectors have seen too many instances there with items estimated at $600 to $800, sell into six figures. A few years ago they had the famous vase estimated at a couple hundred thousand and they sold it for $25 Million. They miss all the time.
Many thanks for the reply. I had encouraged an investor to buy the vase. I told her to use Bidamounts "Preview Assistant" and to bid up to $5,000 but she backed off (un)fortunately. She thinks the vase is fake and now she mocks me because I thought it was authentic.
The record breaking sale at Skinners was extraordinary. They said it was because of the condition they had given it such a low estimate. https://alaintruong2014.wordpress.com/tag/flower-and-landscape-vase/ What I don't understand is that museums and experienced collectors go to them as there are plenty of alternatives that can offer more professional dating/authentication and better estimates. Like for example the enamel lidded bowl talked about here that came from the Clark Art Institute in Williamstown. The 25 million dollar vase came from the Ton-Ying & Company. You would think they would have a good understanding of the market since they are themselves dealers (not sure it came directly from them or from someone who bought it there). I found this website when I googled their name. https://the-maac.com/gallery/ton-ying-company/ But Skinners are not the only one who miss. Did you know that a closely related vase described as 'probably republican period' and estimated at $1000 at Sotheby's was sold for $18 million? http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2011/informing-the-eye-of-the-collector-chinese-ceramics-and-works-of-art-from-jt-tai-co-n08722/lot.120.html
I do remember the fake ge/guan pieces with fake stickers, for example those at Altair that you also talked about in one of your videos. I got fooled by those too but luckily I didn't buy any of them. But the vase at Skinners has a different sticker than the fake Spink & Son stickers I can find online. Like this one. https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/65752026_chinese-crackled-geyao-vase
Looks very similar to those from Altair shown at bidamount. https://bidamount.com/altair-auctions-fake-chinese-song-and-qing-wares-july-29-opinion
There's a couple more examples of similar vases online. A modern fake (I assume) from 888 AUCTIONS and a 20th ct example from Rob Michiels Auctions. Then we can compare them. You don't see this form very often. http://en.51bidlive.com/Item/95417
In my research I came across this Qianlong M&P guan-type hu vase sold for only £5,235 at Lyon & Turnbull - a treasure for a bargain. (please click the lowest line in the links otherwise you will be re-directed to the main site.) https://www.lyonandturnbull.com/auction/lot/97-GUAN-TYPE-CELADON-GLAZED-HU-VASE/?lot=174330&sd=1&fbclid=IwAR0bC1WDdRUO1Us7oT36cDmCEJfN6UoQ-XYbk9JdK2k-qdqUgtbqMgQbspo And for comparison a similar rounded shaped M&P hu-vase sold at Christie's to give you an idea what such a piece can potentially bring. http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2017/07/30/35520416.html?fbclid=IwAR1yMxG79o5b65PsFybhYUZKrnsGQ6xoUqVyigmDy8CgMnAOvUEKdGm1A4M
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