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wiley

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23/07/2019 3:52 pm

Hello,

I thought this might be of interest to some forum members. The pictures are blurry (unfortunately common on invaluable) but the design and bottom look reasonable to my inexperienced eyes as 18th C. The rest of the auction has a large amount export porcelain from China and Japan, some mounted/lamped vases that look authentic to my (novice) eyes as well. However, the estimates seem very low.

A RARE VERY LARGE 18TH CENTURY CHINESE EXPORT BLUE AND WHITE WASH BASIN Qianlong, within period har

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Will

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Julia

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23/07/2019 4:37 pm

What an interesting piece! I would like a closer look at that - not that I have anywhere to put it!

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Ming1449

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23/07/2019 5:40 pm

Hi Will -

I would be very careful - having just had a look at the Chines ceramics been offered many appear rather new, IMO ...

As Julia, if your interested in anything you must try and see/handle before hand ...

Stuart

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wiley

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23/07/2019 5:43 pm

Hi Julia,

I thought it was neat and I haven't seen other pieces like it for sale. It also appears to have a stopped up hole in one side for draining.

I agree that its large size makes it difficult to fit somewhere and for me shipping to Canada would be prohibitive.

Will

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Short Dong

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23/07/2019 6:27 pm

I hope Brigit sees this. I wonder what the significance of the figure on the bridge may be in this scenario. If this is not an out right fake, would the figure on the bridge indicate anything such as it is Canton and 19th century.

( I promise to read up better on Chinese blue and white and improve my academics, but these little quirks in the Artwork are so fascinating. )

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clayandbrush

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23/07/2019 6:59 pm

Pictures are blurry and we do not have details, regardless there are high chances that it is authentic Qianlong basin.

Regards,

Giovanni

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springmeier

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23/07/2019 8:38 pm

What do you think of those? I've never seen this ribbed shape before for export celadon ground vases and the glaze looks kind of new. I noticed they just removed their ''19th C.'' mention.

A VERY RARE PAIR OF CHINESE CELADON BLUE AND WHITE RIBBED VASES Qing, painted with scholars within

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wiley

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23/07/2019 9:51 pm

Hi Springmeier,

Those vases look relatively modern to me... A technical question, how do they maintain the white ground in the painted areas? I thought the glaze would be uniformly celadon in colour.

Thanks for the warning Stuart, I didn't mean to imply everything had age, but that I saw several blue and white and rose medallion plates and vases that seemed authentic 19C or 18C. Monochromes I find very hard to place.

One item (and whose estimated price and size might make it feasible to purchase and ship) that caught my eye and whose decoration seemed typical for the 18th (to me at least) was this iron red vase/lamp.

A 17TH CENTURY CHINESE IRON RED KANGXI VASE converted to a lamp. Vase 22 cm high.

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Will

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Ming1449

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24/07/2019 12:31 pm

Hi Will -

My apologises for any misunderstanding conveyed ...

I do not know what your experience/knowledge of pieces are, and did not mean to imply that all Chinese/Japanese objects in this sale are relatively modern - this is not the case - but only that, if you intended bidding, you should try to visit and see/handle or, at the very least, asked for much clear images and further details before deciding ...

Stuart

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wiley

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24/07/2019 2:54 pm

That's definitely good advice!

Will

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3 Trends Art Dealers and Collectors Need to Understand to Break Into the Asian Art Market

October 12, 2018 - artnet News

Even though China is the largest and most powerful player in the Asian art market, the country's market is a relative newcomer in the region. Other nations, particularly Japan and Korea, boast much more mature and developed markets. Many collectors...

Important London collection of Asian art to be sold in Sussex

October 18, 2018 - West Sussex Gazette

This week I am in the company of Toovey's director and Asian art specialist, Tom Rowsell, who has just finished preparations for the sale of an important London single - owner collection of Asian Art. I asked Tom how the collection looked in the...

Auction Preview: Asian Art at Bonhams, London, Nov 5 - 6

October 18, 2018 - Blouinartinfo

What: Asian Art. Where: Bonhams, Montpelier Street, Knightsbridge, SW7 1HH, London. When: Nov 5 - 6, 10:30 AM GMT. Public Viewing: 02 Nov 2018 09:00 - 16:30 GMT, 03 Nov 2018 11:00 - 17:00 GMT, 04 Nov 2018 11:00 - 17:00 GMT, 05 Nov 2018 09:00...

How Chinese export porcelain conquered the Dutch

October 15, 2018 - CGTN (press release)

Chinese export porcelain production and trade have a long history. Silk, tea, and ceramics are the three major commodities on the ancient silk road. While silk and tea are consumables, ceramics can survive and spread. From the end of Ming Dynasty...

'World in Porcelain' traces path on the Silk Road

October 2, 2018 - The San Diego Union-Tribune

“You can see through the cups, so the quality is very good,” said Polly Liew, pointing at the tea sets displayed at the San Diego Chinese Historical Museum, where Liew is on the board of directors. “Look how thin that is. That's amazing,” acknowledged...

Estate of David Rockefeller Gives Works by Native American Artists to MFA Boston, Mesa Verde National Park Museum

October 18, 2018 - ARTnews

But, in addition to the high-priced Impressionist, Post-Impressionist, and modern artworks he sought out, he also collected Chinese porcelain, decorative art, and Native American artworks such as these. David made the “Top 200 Collectors” list...

The 5 Biggest Myths About the Chinese Art Market—and the Inconvenient Realities That May Give Investors Pause

October 16, 2018 - artnet News

One morning at Sotheby's Paris this June, an exquisitely detailed, painted Chinese porcelain vase from the 18th century—which had been discovered in a family attic in France and delivered to Sotheby's in a shoe box—sparked a 20-minute bidding war...

Full text of Chinese premier's keynote speech at China-Netherlands Business Forum

October 18, 2018 - China.org.cn

As early as in the 17th century, Dutch merchants brought Chinese porcelain, tea and silk to Europe. Our cooperation has come a long way since the establishment of diplomatic ties, especially in recent years. The Netherlands has been among China's top...

Billionaire art collector says Chinese museums are buying up the world's art

October 17, 2018 - CNBC

One of the world's top art collectors said the art market is unlikely to cool or crash anytime soon, due in part to soaring demand from new museums in China. Bubbles and busts are nearly impossible to predict in any market, said J. Tomilson Hill, the...

Auction Preview: Fine Chinese Art at Bonhams, London, Nov 8

October 18, 2018 - Blouinartinfo

What: Fine Chinese Art. Where: Bonhams, 101 New Bond Street, W1S 1SR, London. When: Nov 8, 10:30 AM GMT. Public Viewing: 04 Nov 2018 11:00 - 17:00 GMT, 05 Nov 2018 09:30 - 19:00 GMT, 06 Nov 2018 09:30 - 19:00 GMT, 07 Nov 2018 09:30 - 16:30...

Wen Fong, 'giant in the field of Chinese art history,' dies at 88

October 12, 2018 - Princeton University

“Wen Fong was a giant in the field of Chinese art history, and his long tenure at Princeton insured our department's significance in the field,” said Michael Koortbojian, the M. Taylor Pyne Professor of Art and Archaeology and department chair...

Mega-galleries bank on Chinese art at Frieze

October 5, 2018 - Art Newspaper

White Cube, the London-based gallery historically associated with the YBAs, has given over its entire stand at Frieze London to a striking display by the Chinese artist Liu Wei. Where once hung spin paintings by Damien Hirst now stands a cage-like...

A Postmortem on Trump's Proposed Chinese Art Tariff

October 3, 2018 - Hyperallergic

Initially, the proposed list for import taxation contained 6,031 items, including Chinese paintings, sculptures, prints, pastels, lithographs, and antiques exceeding 100 years old (China prohibits the export of objects over 200 years in age...

$65 million Chinese oil painting leads one of Asia's largest ever art auctions

October 1, 2018 - CNN

It was a record-breaking evening at the auction house, which sold $200 million worth of art at the sale. Asian artists featured prominently alongside household Western names, with Japanese artist Yoshitomo Nara's "Portrait of AE" selling for more than...

iGavel Auctions and Lark Mason Associates Offer Over 1000 Lots at their Fall Asian Art Auction Now Open for Bidding

October 12, 2018 - ArtfixDaily

iGavel Auctions kicks off its Fall 2018 sales season with a series of three Asian art auctions: Asian Works of Art (Oct. 2-23), Chinese Jades and other Carvings (Oct. 9-22), and Fine Art and Antiques from Florida Estates (Oct. 10-25) – all open for...

Auction Preview: Asian Art & Jewelry & Silver at Galaxy Auction Inc., New York, Oct 14

October 15, 2018 - Blouinartinfo

What: Asian Art & Jewelry & Silver. Where: Galaxy Auction Inc., 143-40 38th Ave, Suite 203, NY, United States. When: Oct 14, 4:00 PM GMT. Public Viewing: Oct 10 - Oct 12, 11AM - 5PM. Top Lots of the Sale: - "A Gilt-Bronze Stand Figure of Guanyin"...

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A VERY RARE PAIR OF CHINESE CELADON BLUE AND WHITE RIBBED VASES Qing, painted with scholars within

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Important London collection of Asian art to be sold in Sussex

Auction Preview: Asian Art at Bonhams, London, Nov 5 - 6

How Chinese export porcelain conquered the Dutch

'World in Porcelain' traces path on the Silk Road

Estate of David Rockefeller Gives Works by Native American Artists to MFA Boston, Mesa Verde National Park Museum

The 5 Biggest Myths About the Chinese Art Market—and the Inconvenient Realities That May Give Investors Pause

Full text of Chinese premier's keynote speech at China-Netherlands Business Forum

Billionaire art collector says Chinese museums are buying up the world's art

Auction Preview: Fine Chinese Art at Bonhams, London, Nov 8

Wen Fong, 'giant in the field of Chinese art history,' dies at 88

Mega-galleries bank on Chinese art at Frieze

A Postmortem on Trump's Proposed Chinese Art Tariff

$65 million Chinese oil painting leads one of Asia's largest ever art auctions

iGavel Auctions and Lark Mason Associates Offer Over 1000 Lots at their Fall Asian Art Auction Now Open for Bidding

Auction Preview: Asian Art & Jewelry & Silver at Galaxy Auction Inc., New York, Oct 14

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