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Wrong items on Catawiki
Reasons why I do not like to sell through Catawiki. If I have to be submitted to the opinion of “experts” that thinks that these are Kangxi, well, no, thank you. (These are just a couple of examples of many there).
Vase - Porcelain - Scholar in mountainous river landscape - Mint condition!! - China - Kangxi (1662-1722) - Catawiki
An excellent mint condition vase, sturdy potted with decoration of a scholar with traditional clothing and a long stick in a mountainous river landscape with a river crossing abundant rocks, trees and different buildings. In front of the scholar is a vessel, which he's probably going to use to cross the river.
Dish - Porcelain - Large saucer - Deer hunters on horses in rocky landscape - Marked with conch shell - China - Kangxi (1662-1722) - Catawiki
An excellent Chinese porcelain large dish, marked with conch shell in double circle. With a central decoration of deer hunters on horses in rocky landscape, all very nicely decorated in a strong and highly toned underglaze blue. In the broad border a classical decoration of blossoming branches on a geometrical surrounding.
the vase is not meiping form, it is baluster form.
Is it late 19th century? Here becomes our individual approach. My personal approach, in this case, is that I am not interested in knowing that. My approach is: is it Kangxi? If yes, good. If not, I just do not spend one second in thinking when it has been made and especially how much it is worth. To me, nothing.
Unless we are talking about something special, made in the late 19th century and of high quality. But it is not the case here.
Why should I spend money for something not of the period, and of low quality? If this is 19th century, it is better to spend that money for something that is typical of the 19th century, i.e. the real thing, not an attempt.
BTW I am convinced that many of these false Kangxi items are modern. Luckily many buyers have some knowledge, as we can see by the low price reached by the charger, as correctly pointed out by Stuart.
A genuine Kangxi dish of that diameter, with an hunting scene, would surely sell for much more than that.
I saw this one on Catawiki today. Made me laugh. Only off be 3 or 4 hundred years.
A large Celadon Ming plate/dish with decoration. The plate/dish has an unglazed inner ring and foot-rim. The plate is in good condition, just some edge fritting. See all photos. The diameter of the plate is approx. 30.5 cm and it is 8.5 cm high. Will be sent as a parcel.
This is all very poor from supposed experts. That is a point of trust on Catawiki, the idea that items have been vetted; to offer these for sale implying the descriptions are accurate is not encouraging. That jar is awful! I can't even see it as a 19th c copy.
Moreover, if this is only 16.3 cms, why is that tiny jar standing next to it? What is the point of that other than to make the item for sale seem enormous. It gives a false perspective.
How do you differentiate between a baluster and a Meiping? I’d always believed a baluster vase was shaped like a baluster I.e. broad at the bottom with a low centre of gravity:
’meping’ is a relatively new term for me, I thought it applied to an ‘inverse’ baluster type? but I’d be really grateful to know the correct definition. I am not generally a fan of Wikipedia, but all I could find was this:
A meiping ( Chinese: 梅瓶; pinyin: ; literally: 'plum vase') is a type of vase in Chinese ceramics. It is traditionally used to display branches of plum blossoms. The meiping was first made of stoneware during the Tang dynasty (618-907).
Thanks for clarifying that this vase is a fake or a copy. I had no intention of buying, was just asking questions that came to mind.
Hi Stuart, thank you. The difference is fairly clear. The plate is on the Bidamount list I believe?
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