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Reasons why I do not like to sell through Catawiki. If I have to be submitted to the opinion of “experts” that thinks that these are Kangxi, well, no, thank you. (These are just a couple of examples of many there).
Giovanni
Dear Giovanni -
I would concur, the painterly style of both is total wrong for the Kangxi period ...!!
I think the vase has been listed, or re-advertised, on Catawiki for a while ... The dish sold for £193 ...
Stuart
They’ve got the vase listed as EARLY Kangxi. With an estimate of $1000-$1100.
Isn’t it a fairly typical late 19th century Meiping?
It’s small, 16cm. It’s on $150 which is about what it’s worth?
Nic
Dear Nic,
the vase is not meiping form, it is baluster form.
Is it late 19th century? Here becomes our individual approach. My personal approach, in this case, is that I am not interested in knowing that. My approach is: is it Kangxi? If yes, good. If not, I just do not spend one second in thinking when it has been made and especially how much it is worth. To me, nothing.
Unless we are talking about something special, made in the late 19th century and of high quality. But it is not the case here.
Why should I spend money for something not of the period, and of low quality? If this is 19th century, it is better to spend that money for something that is typical of the 19th century, i.e. the real thing, not an attempt.
BTW I am convinced that many of these false Kangxi items are modern. Luckily many buyers have some knowledge, as we can see by the low price reached by the charger, as correctly pointed out by Stuart.
A genuine Kangxi dish of that diameter, with an hunting scene, would surely sell for much more than that.
Giovanni
Hi ND -
Attached images of Kangxi period bowl and dish with hunting seances - the differences in the painterly style are obvious ...
Stuart
I saw this one on Catawiki today. Made me laugh. Only off be 3 or 4 hundred years.
Yes I remember having read that these rustic stamped items are 2nd half of 19th century. Like all kitchen Qing they are often mistaken for Ming, but this shouldn’t happen to the Catawiki experts.
Birgit
This is all very poor from supposed experts. That is a point of trust on Catawiki, the idea that items have been vetted; to offer these for sale implying the descriptions are accurate is not encouraging. That jar is awful! I can't even see it as a 19th c copy.
Moreover, if this is only 16.3 cms, why is that tiny jar standing next to it? What is the point of that other than to make the item for sale seem enormous. It gives a false perspective.
This damaged hunting Bowl is slightly earlier,Shunzhi-early Kangxi, but pattern very similar to Stuart’s Bowl.
Vic
Hi Giovanni,
How do you differentiate between a baluster and a Meiping? I’d always believed a baluster vase was shaped like a baluster I.e. broad at the bottom with a low centre of gravity:
’meping’ is a relatively new term for me, I thought it applied to an ‘inverse’ baluster type? but I’d be really grateful to know the correct definition. I am not generally a fan of Wikipedia, but all I could find was this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiping
Thanks for clarifying that this vase is a fake or a copy. I had no intention of buying, was just asking questions that came to mind.
Hi Stuart, thank you. The difference is fairly clear. The plate is on the Bidamount list I believe?
Nic
Ah, great, I see it also has a narrow foot that does not flare out at the bottom like the Catawiki vase.
Nic
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