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In my southern city of china they hold a weekend antique and curio market , which has just resumed after the spring festival - I thought it might be interesting to show what's on sale so I took a few photos today - you can see almost everything is new but being sold brazenly as 'old'; the range of different items is quite impressive, and shows what the buyer of real antiques is up against.
I don't understand how so many traders have the nerve to sell fakes, but it's the same all over I guess.
tam
Most interesting is one older man who was selling genuine things (I reckon ) . For ref. the (damaged small ) flambe vase was for sale for about £300 , the copper red small vase about £100, the two cizhou black jar and pot about £30 each , but most of his items had some kind of damage
tam
Very interesting, Tam, thanks for showing. Looks like a collector's paradise. Although most items are modern, I'm sure I couldn't resist buying some just for decorative purposes. As to the antique items, I would have expected prices to be lower at the source in China than in the West but that seems not the case.
Birgit
Dear Tam,
how interesting, thank you so much for posting these pictures!
I really like to see such things.
I did look at all the pictures before reading the comment of your second post, so when I arrived at the last picture, I thought “hey, there is something good there! Or are them so good in making fake?”.
But then I did read your comment. I like the cizhou bowl.
Giovanni
Dear Birgit we did post at the same time. I too have been surprised by the prices.
Giovanni
Good grief! I would be lost! Very interesting photos. I have a plate very similar to the one in the top left hand corner of your last photo. Here it is on the right.
Thank you Tam. Fascinating ?
Nic
Good grief! I would be lost! Very interesting photos. I have a plate very similar to the one in the top left hand corner of your last photo. Here it is on the right.
Thank you Tam. Fascinating ?
Nic
Very interesting, thank you. Who actually buys this stuff?
Fascinating!
Hi Nic , these kind of plates , like the one on the right in your photo are quite common , domestic ware
Hi Giovanni , I didn't ask the price of the cizhou plate but it had some damage (as did most of his items )
I agree the prices of his items are not excessive , but you are taking a risk on the authenticity of these older pre qing pieces, and on the damage. I think he is a long time collector selling off some of his less treasured things.
Most buyers in this market are either other dealers (I have sold in this market before and saw my items later in their shops in other antique centres here) or people who know little about antiques and are looking for something cheap and possibly old or just to put in their house . There are lots of dealers now selling polished wood, beads , jade and other stones , books on art etc which are all new 'antique related' stuff or purely decorative or to wear.
I don't where the floor dealers here come from , maybe from another city , because they don't seem to own the shops in this 'antiques park' or elsewhere, and only show up on the weekends.
tam
Thank you. ?
On one of my working trips to China I had the pleasure of having to walk past one of these open air markets, I had never seen so many antique temple vases of the newish type. I really wasn’t in to Chinese porcelain at the time so just saw them as a curiosity (typical tourist). If I knew what I know now I would have spent more time. I was only there for street food over lunch. Hummm, maybe it did spur on some thing, I did get more interested in Chinese porcelain and started drinking green tea.
Thank you Tam. Nice report. Where is your hometown? Hongkong or Canton?
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Hi Xin,
these photos are from my wife's home city of Nanning in Guangxi, although I live now in a smaller city in Jiangxi, not too far from the home of porcelain: Jingdezhen.
tam
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