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Topic starter 11/02/2018 8:19 am  

As far as we've been able to see eBay seller "bluemirage95" only sells fakes, some are much worse than others, but are all new. 

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11/02/2018 8:43 am  

There is just too much of everything so quite obvious in my view.


   
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11/02/2018 9:05 am  

Wow - Thousands of Chinese "Antiques" sold by bluemirage95 on ebay... Maybe someone should explain to this seller what an 'antique' is.


   
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11/02/2018 9:35 pm  

I am pretty sure this vase with a painting of a vase is legit. lol

 


   
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12/02/2018 2:15 am  

When I first started selling on eBay, five years ago, someone bought a cast iron door knocker of me, which I have shown above. The buyer decided that he didn’t want it, so he made a claim back, saying it was a fake, so he could get a full refund of the postal costs too. I have had this happen a few times on items which were genuine. But, they allow people to blatantly sell fake items all the time, even when the feedback clearly says the buyer is selling fake items and eBay just keeps letting the seller carry on. In my case I had to prove that the items were genuine, I was penalised for it. At the end of the day, one rule for one and one for another.


   
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12/02/2018 6:55 am  

Hi Boxingsmart,

I guess the sellers' fees from all these fakes are too important for Ebay to stop them. And this seller doesn't really lie about his stuff, he just says "Qianlong mark". If you look into the item specifics, he says "age: 1900-1940". Which is of course not true, the pieces are new, but I doubt that Ebay will act upon this.

Birgit


   
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13/02/2018 6:15 pm  

This eBay seller lists almost all the fakes they offer as "antique" - If this isn't "really a lie" then I don't know what is  ? 

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/antique
"...any work of art, piece of furniture, decorative object, or the like,created or produced in a former period, or, according to U.S. customslaws, 100 years before date of purchase."

I totally agree with @Boxingsmart eBay do not remove these types of seller as they generate too much revenue for them. All eBay cares about is the money seller's make for them. eBay would still allow fake big brand fashion and jewellery items if it wasn't for the fact that the big brands got together and using their combined muscle forced ebay to stop marketing fakes... Not that it has really worked. - This has been going on for over 20 years with eBay and I doubt it will ever cease:

https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/ebay-fined-30m-lvmh-wins-legal-battle/828007

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-558253/Welcome-fakeBay-How-eBays-designer-bargains-just-good-true.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/court-tells-ebay-to-crack-down-on-sellers-of-counterfeit-goods-2312626.html

etc.  ? 


   
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13/02/2018 6:54 pm  

blue mirage....   name is exactly as it states, an optical illusion as vast as the ocean.  things may look legit... they are not.

It is what it is!


   
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13/02/2018 6:57 pm  

These sellers really shouldn't be removed from eBay.  We should all educate ourselves.  They do provide a good purpose for interior decorators and design consultants.  Not everyone can afford or wants a $5,000-10,000 vase.

It is what it is!


   
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13/02/2018 7:20 pm  

The issue I have with these types of sellers is the deception... I am a big fan of decorative items, that are described and priced as such. I just don't like people thinking they have invested in an 'antique' only to find out, down the road, they have been duped. 

@collectingasia your point about the seller's name is spot on.


   
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14/02/2018 11:03 am  

You're right about duping people.  That's not good.  But people should also not believe they are purchasing a $75,000-200,000 vase for $3,000.  I understand that it can and does happen, but people should always stop to ask the right questions.

I think I read a statistic somewhere this last year.  Something like 21% of the population who plays the lottery believes that it will pay for their retirement....

It is what it is!


   
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14/02/2018 1:07 pm  

...and 84% of all motorists think their driving skills are above average!


   
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