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Help! Somebody must take action, please! (Catawiki again)
I can’t believe at my eyes, in seeing every week the incredible quantity of horripilate things that are sold on Catawiki as Ming statues, Tang horses and so on. Especially by a seller named Pax Romana.
Look, in the Weekly newsletter, at the many “Ming” statues currently for sale, all clearly made by the same hand.
In my opinion the real scandal is not the seller but the Catawiki “expert”. It is not possible, the thing is too much blatant, it must not be only matter of incompetence. There must be something beneath all this shame; the notes made by the expert are supporting this suspicion. Things like “only the TL test has been made, no other tests has been made“: mister expert, the TL test is the maximum (if from a reliable Lab); your note sounds like a decline of responsibility. Or “the seller believes that this piece is of the period”: and you? What you believe? What are you paid for? Just for reporting what the seller says? It is not needed an expert for that.
Pity that it is not possible to contact Catawiki (is it for preventing them to hear some truths?). Shame on them!
I had a quick look at the Archaeological section of Catawiki, managed by this same expert. My God!
Is this an Etruscan bucchero? Has he never seen one in his life? Dear "expert", just googling for it is enough!
Description: Ancient Etruscan Blackware Bucchero Vessel. This item includes a Certificate of Authenticity. Material: Terracotta Condition: Good / see photos Date: Circa 6th Century BC Size: H:70mm;84g ID: b754 Provenance: The Supplier warrants that is has obtained this lot in a legal manner. Obtained from an old British collection, purchased from a collector in Birmingham.
Hmmm... I did look at how many items Pax Romana is selling this week: 239! This may explain something.
when you‘re logged in on Catawiki there’s a button where you can leave a comment about the description.
Agree with you about the Ming statues, so many and they are obviously from the same factory. The price is still low with 3 days to go so maybe buyers are suspicious.
now I have found the way to contact them. It is not in the same place of the description (may be the screen is not the same in all Countries?). I have found it in the FAQ page. Will write them, although I know it is totally useless.
I did this post just because I found it extremely irritating the fact that they are trying to depicting themselves as being totally different from eBay, as being a safe place where to buy, while instead they are absolutely the same.
Ebay is perfectly aware that the great majority of listings in the area of Antiques are fake. They know that; they do nothing for contrasting the fraudulent activity only because the income from the market of fake items is by far superior.
Now, Catawiki is doing the same, but on top of that they too, and not only their sellers, are cheating the buyers. And all this claiming that they are a serious, safe place. At least, eBay do not make any claim.
That is not tolerable, they are cheating the buyer two times. The case of that seller is a real scandal, it is not possible that they do not know perfectly that those things are fake. They have an expert for that. It is not matter of mistakes, what they declare in the description is a clear way of trying to “wash their hands”.
it seems they removed the option to comment the description. I couldn't find it anymore but am sure it was there, right in the description of the items, because I once left a comment and I remember Julia also did. This is a rather bad sign. I never managed to win an item at Catawiki and have stopped visiting altogether. Either the price was pushed to astronomic heights by some bidders or there was a minimum price that I didn't reach. Part of the fun on Ebay is that you can make a bargain now and then by clever bidding. On Catawiki the item just goes to the buyer with the fattest purse.
Pax Romana have a gallery opposite the British Museum, they also hold regular auctions. Here is their website:
We are established central London dealers and auctioneers of Ancient Art and Numismatics. Our two-floor gallery is located just opposite the British Museum - 25 Bury Place, WC1A 2JH. We specialise in the appraisal, sale and authentication of Antiquities and coins.
Whether they are the same people as those selling on Catawiki, I couldn't tell you
Dear Giovanni -
I would concur with your comments ...
In one respect, Catawiki are even worse then eBay, as the objects offered are supposed to have been check and verified as authentic/genuine by there so called 'experts'!! Anyone can make a mistake - we've all have - but I would questions how/why so many blatant fakes are getting pass these 'experts' ... It would appear, as you quite rightly point out, other games are been played here ... Scandalous ...!!!
Hello ebay exposer,
I didn’t know that they have a shop. I did click on the link that you have provided. As the page popped up, I start to laugh. Have you noted the horse in the lower right corner of the shop window? Even at that distance it is laughable.
Dear Stuart, you have correctly understood my meaning.
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