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 Art Ancient
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14/01/2021 9:37 am  

Peter Reynaers and Ruth Garrido Vila , Catawiki Antiquities Expert appears to be once more helping Pax Romana unloading lots of what looks like fake antiquities on their website.

its under Pax Romana Collection Auction, feel sad for the buyers spending money,as half looks like tourist stuff


   
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14/01/2021 9:44 am  

https://www.catawiki.com/a/th/7725-pax-romana-collection-auction

To me the Ming attendands indeed look like tourist stuff - or at least heavily restored and fancyfully repainted. But that's not my field, so just my personal opinion.

Birgit


   
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 Art Ancient
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14/01/2021 10:30 am  

@shinigami

It does not matter the culture, half of the items on Pax Romana Auction look like tourist stuff, few weeks ago they had about 8 Egyptian Shabtis for sale as antiquities......all looked from same mold and colouring same.

Catawiki experts must have been asleep that day!


   
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 Julia
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14/01/2021 2:49 pm  

I also thought some of the attendants look more recent. Not that I know much about these things.  They messed up describing the ancient Roman glazed terracotta rooster. The text beneath changes it to being Ming. I would expect experts to a least notice something like that. 


   
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09/04/2021 7:35 pm  

It’s almost to the point where I’m done collecting. I’m so fed up with fake wares, fake sellers, fake testing. Makes me sick. On top of that, ask ten different people about a piece and you’ll get ten different answers. The bad sellers on catawiki cross over to Trocadero too.


   
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09/04/2021 8:16 pm  

After my last experience I will never buy from Catawiki again. I bid on an item and what was shipped to me was a completely different item (and I mean like shipped the wrong item completely different). I reached out to Catawiki and they have never responded. Called them and was told they will look into it, then never got a reply. Catawiki in my experience is horrible to deal with. Thankfully I have a great bank and they refunded me my money, as I purchased a Yongzheng vase and received a Roman(?) coin. Shame on Catawiki for supporting fraudulent sellers.


   
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10/04/2021 12:55 am  

@33kills Try Bidamount-Live before you stop collecting altogether. You don’t have to worry about fakes there. 

Birgit


   
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17/04/2021 5:51 am  

Catawiki experts sometimes are horrible, unless there is something obviuos to them..sometimes I feel that I know more..and in real I know very little..personal expirience..listed lot of 4 19th century snuff bottles for sale..auctioned, never paid..decided to brake a lot into singles..2 of them was adviced as republic period otherwise not approved 🙂


   
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18/04/2021 11:22 pm  

@lucky,

If you post your snuff bottles here we have a couple of very knowledgeable people who can help you with dating etc.

I agree with Birgit. Perhaps after posting here list them on Bidamountlive.

Mark 


   
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19/04/2021 12:58 am  

@imperialfinegems Mark, I did sold them already - thank you!

 


   
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19/04/2021 1:07 am  

@imperialfinegems Mark, I did registered on Bidamount live..After registration>>looks like there is a broken link - when I click on "become a vendor" this is what I get..I did tried few times just to make sure.

Audrius

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19/04/2021 1:12 am  

@lucky There still seem to be some issues with the site, as it’s so new. Use the contact form on Bidamount live and Peter will look into it. 

Birgit


   
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19/04/2021 1:12 am  

Another small glitch..When I click on Chinese auction, before click system shows 66 items, and 2nd screen what's happening after.

Mark - this is new auction site I guess, as looks like there is still plenty work to be done 😊

china
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19/04/2021 1:14 am  

@shinigami I was replaying when you did replay 🙂 I will post few more glitches in a future, if there will be any - when I will have time to test it a little bit deeper

P.S. I think would be great idea to create a separate thread for members as for tests results regarding website - to post glitches and imperfections..

Audrius


   
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24/04/2021 4:31 pm  

Pax Romana seem to have all of their items tested by Kotalla. Pax items see a little suspicious to me. Anyone have dealings with Pax?


   
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