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John Guerrero
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Topic starter 16/11/2021 4:26 am  

Hi all,

 

I hope everyone is doing well. I would like to share my latest purchase - a very rare export armorial plate for the French market. This plate is unrecorded in any of the current literature but the plate will be published in the near future. It was likely ordered by a prominent French sailor/naval officer and features two recumbent lions on a bank, supporting the armorial crest under a marquis crown. It's also interesting that the plate is modeled after 18th-century European silver forms, and has a double ring of gilt vines.

 

I acquired it from Nicolas Fournery, who I highly recommend. His write-up is here at https://www.galerienicolasfournery.com/collection/an-unrecorded-chinese-armorial-plate-for-the-french-market-la-tullaye-qianlong-period/ It is currently the only known piece of this service, and was found at a local auction in Paris described as a French make.

 

I've read a bit about Chinese export porcelain, but this is my first entry into western subject matters, and I particularly enjoy the fact that it has a connection to a renowned sailor. Here are some photos: 

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Thanks for looking, 

John


   
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16/11/2021 2:50 pm  

@bartholin

Hi John,

That's quite a score! Attractive decoration with cute lions - they look like toys or strange creatures relaxing and the one on the right is stretching his legs - and an unusually shaped rim. It's great to have an antique item and know for whom it was made, makes for a good conversation piece.

Regards,

Steve

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Topic starter 16/11/2021 4:06 pm  

@steve 

 

Hi Steve,

 

Thank you for taking a look! The almost toy-like lions really drew me in on this one, although my partner saw the plate and said they look funny. I think it adds to the charm of the plate! I'm really enjoying this area of collecting and research. Will be on the lookout for more interesting export pieces.

 

John 


   
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16/11/2021 4:23 pm  

@bartholin Great find!  Keep us posted on the publishing!


   
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Topic starter 16/11/2021 4:49 pm  

Thank you, Tim! I will definitely update here 😀 


   
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17/11/2021 11:32 am  

@bartholin 

That is a great buy, and I absolutely love the lions.  Congrats!

Jeremy


   
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Topic starter 17/11/2021 12:41 pm  

Thank you, Jeremy! I appreciate the kind words 😀 


   
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17/11/2021 9:23 pm  

Great piece! I wonder where the rest of the service is hiding? 


   
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Topic starter 18/11/2021 10:45 am  

@johnshoe

Thank you, John! Peter said it's likely that the service over the centuries was divided up over generations where pieces were subsequently lost, broken, or forgotten over time. He said that the fact that it hasn't been recorded yet means that the rest of the service is likely no longer around, or maybe one or two survived. I hope a couple are still out there - it'd be great to have a pair eventually.


   
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20/11/2021 5:54 am  

Thank you John for recommending this dealer. He has beautiful things and is located in the EU which is very convenient for me. I just bought a cute little Kangxi teapot from him. Was afraid to enquire for the price first because that usually means expensive. But it was really affordable. 

Birgit


   
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Topic starter 20/11/2021 11:12 am  

Of course, Birgit! It's been such a pleasure speaking with him - He helped walk me through the literature in this niche, and explained which books were the most important for where I want to take my collection. He's definitely a dealer that would be great to work with to build your collection. I'm glad you were able to pick up a piece from him 😀  Would love to see it when it arrives. 


   
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20/11/2021 12:03 pm  

@bartholin,

Wow... what a stunning plate/dish you bought from him.

Mark 

 


   
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Topic starter 20/11/2021 12:15 pm  

Thank you, Mark! I'm glad you like the plate 🙂 It will certainly be treasured, and I'll be sure to share my future acquisitions from Nicolas.


   
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20/11/2021 2:07 pm  

I hope you will show us when it arrives, Birgit.

This is a dealer recommended by Peter. It is a very nice-looking website, which made me fear the prices may be high, so it is good to hear your experience.


   
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