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Do you collect Rose Mandarin?
I bought my first example of Rose Mandarin yesterday at auction - a teacup and saucer set - and am looking forward to receiving it in a couple of weeks.
The cup is in pretty good condition - no hairlines but two chips to bottom, the saucer a little worn but no hairlines. Overall, the quality of the decoration is middling. I like the detail on the inside of the rim of the cup. (These tiny details often look better in person than they do blown up in photos.) But it will look great next to my Rose Medallion items and will make a nice birthday or festive Christmas coffee cup.
Do you have any Rose Mandarin items you enjoy?
That's a great example of the pattern, and definitely better quality/ earlier than most I come across. Honestly though I usually am attracted to the precursor to that pattern and the rose medallion stuff, canton famille rose type pieces, a little more funky and odd looking.
Ill be curious if the twin fish part of yours are decorated with black enamel or silver gilt.
A very nice precursor from around 1830. Like Jeremy I prefer these earlier ones or later but unusual pieces.
Nordic Antique Sweden offers two Rose Medallion plates for the Islamic market. These don't pop up too often. I found one in Britain some years ago.
Thank you! It was an impulse purchase; didn't need it and I pretty much paid market rate, but I will appreciate that I bought it in the future even more. 😉
I agree about the later versions. Rose Medallion became less and less attractive at the decades went by, with exceptions, of course. When it's good it looks dazzling and luxurious; when it's poor it's a messy thing to behold, as though trying too hard to be fancy.
When you say you're more attracted to the precursor, do you mean the 18th c. court and Chinese export scenes? Do you have any?
That's nice! I can see how rose Canton would have had a market in Islam - I guess the animals are easily overlooked as purely ornamental.
I have a small Rose Medallion plate I bought from Peter and it's the highest quality of the type I own. I was thrilled to get it for only $70! It has the diaper patterned negative space instead of the swirls. Sweden sure seem to have a lot of Chinese export wares, doesn't it?
P.S.: The plate I bought from Peter. (I may have shared photos of it before here.)
Hi Steve, this is an unusual piece, nice and collectible.
You don't see very many examples with the diaper pattern, do you? I'm guessing it was one of the earlier versions that was phased out.
No, in fact it's a late example, around 1880/90, as can be seen by the dwarf like people. I think they borrowed the diaper pattern from somewhere else. These variations and one-off pieces are more collectible than the ordinary mass-ware. I always try to find them.
@shinigami Ah! I was fooled by the gold in the hair. Good to know!
I saved this picture somewhere years ago and find it quite helpful.
Teacup and saucer are from the 1830s. The special hairstyle of the ladies was used only during a short period. I highly recommend the book of faces:
@shinigami Yes, I've been meaning to buy it. Just waiting for a copy in the U.S. that's not quite so expensive. Or a future splurge. (Santa, are you listening?)
Hi @steve, thank you for sharing. As the others have stated, it's a very nice looking cup and saucer and I like the auspicious twin fish. To share another example with a unique border pattern, this is a plate I picked up a several years back - I was drawn to the goofy looking dragons around the border and the lake in the roundel.
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