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Celestial flambe dragon vase
My other purchase just arrived today!
It's a stunning bang de boeuf glazed dragon vase. It depicts a three toed dragon amongst stars/other. It measures about 28cm. Condition perfect with exception of some minor gilt loss.
It bears the mark of kinkozan and is done by his-hand. It dates to 1885-1900. Highly unusual for this master for two reasons. Firstly the pear shape is not generally known for his style/other. Second is the flambe glaze. Kinkozan obviously did do dragon vases but generally in a different shape and glaze (see example from I.M.CHAIT)
I know it's generally taboo to even suggest this. I am seriously thinking about having the gilt loss redone. I would appreciate any comments therein.
Provenance : kitayamagallery.com
Example sold at I.M.Chait :
What a beautiful vase, Mark! I’m someone who collects only perfect pieces and avoid even a hair line. But I don’t have a problem with gilt loss. It’s inevitable and even a sign of authenticity. Just something you would expect to see on an old vase. In my eyes regilding would look artificial. But of course it’s your own decision.
I wouldn't either, Mark. Obviously, it is up to you but it may end up being one of those things you regret and could ruin your appreciation of your vase.
Wow, another lovely piece, Mark. You have a skill for finding special things. The wide foot rim actually reminds me of the Imari bowl that Jeremy posted yesterday. I think its a sign of quality. I have to agree with Julia and Birgit...I think it would be a risk to get the gilt loss redone. I don’t know much about that sort of thing though, just my initial reaction.
take it with a grain of salt
I was actually recently wondering if gilt loss is ever repaired or not so it has been good to hear you all weigh in on that subject. I still am wondering if and when it might be advised, for example on very high end pieces perhaps and done by a top notch restorer? Would be curious to hear more discussion on this topic.
A very nice example ...
I know nothing about gilt restoration or the complexity/costs this would involve ...
Wheather to do such or not is very much a personal choice ...
As always it a beautiful piece, I know you will enjoy it for a long time,
Wonderful vase. Gliding looks good to me but I am one who likes old things to have a natural patina. You are the one who has to live with it, old gilt used real gold as you well know gold dose not tarnish, but when applied to ceramics it tends to rub and wear. The paints they use today do not contain gold with the result that after a few years the paint tarnishes and looks worse in my opinion than a bit of wear. You could try and find a restorer who uses gold leaf that would be very expensive and require a very high degree of skill. I had a metal box redone a few years ago it looked great at first but after a couple of years it started to go black, and looked worse than it did with a worn look. Thanks for posting a great item at nearly 30cm it must look very impressive.
Thank you guys for your kind words and thoughts on re-gilt.
I think the consensus is to leave it alone. So I shall go with that. It sort of bothered me when I first opened up the box but not so much now 24 hours late. Thanks Michael, for I had the same experience as you a number of years ago!
Actually the glaze shimmers when the light is on. It's absolutely stunning. 😋
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