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Happy Easter! Pre-listing members discount: Late Qing Famille Rose Jar w/ Butterfly Lid, Straits Chinese

 
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Topic starter 12/04/2020 6:38 am  

Hey all, 
I hope everybody has a great easter and everything planned goes well. You have all been very helpful and kind ever since I've joined this forum, and I feel like I learn something new every time I log in. As a result, I was going to offer a sort of preliminary sale to current members before I put it up for sale, which will be Tuesday with an already competitive markdown: the incentive on this post being a pretty decent markdown upon that one...

IMO this is a pretty good deal if you have a market for Straits exports, or have enough overhead to sustain it as an investment

Going to ask $345.00, free priority mail or equivalent insured (and signed if you want) for anybody inside the US. Shipped same day as I live next to my postal office.
I'll allow international shipping, but only for Canada and certain European countries at this time; this will have to be an added calculated estimate depending on how fast you want it and which method, plus of course your own fulfillment of customs related matters and duties.

Ironically enough, found it at an estate as an "Easter Cookie Jar" or similar so it only feels fitting for today 😆 
Authenticated and price estimated by everybody's forum creator and video maker, of course. 9" (22cm) tall, 7" (17.7cm) in diamater.

Have seen them across the auction sites for $500-$650 on average middle range. A few fakes have started popping up as well, usually with Qianlong markings and artificial export stickers - so it's also been a little more of a challenge than I'd care to pursue at this time as a small-timer; especially with increased logistics issues recently (as I'm sure everybody who buys online is experiencing). Also this weekend came across "the dream piece" which I did not hold off on sparing expense to acquire (still don't regret it, literally just built a shelf for when it arrives).

However, like I'm sure many members here are familiar with or can relate to themselves, I sell so I can buy - not the other way around.
Coming across a few great collectables for myself recently, I still want to keep the "fun fund" flowing, or at least maintained at a responsible level..
I accept Paypal, Apple Pay, Venmo or Wire Transfers (fees vary).
Thanks for taking the time to read, please of course ask if you want any more pictures or have questions!

Regards, 
-JRN

This topic was modified 5 years ago by JRN

   
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12/04/2020 11:23 am  

Hi JRN,

thank you for your offer. I like that kind of ware very much but have just bought a 1740 Meissen plate from money I didn’t have, so that means no purchases in the near future 😢

The color blue is a rare one in Straits porcelain. I’m not sure if the lid is possibly a marriage. But a very nice item nonetheless. Good luck with the sale!

Birgit


   
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Topic starter 12/04/2020 10:19 pm  

Hey @shinigami, hope your day was a good one 😀
Also you are correct about the lid, as I'm unsure as well. Sotheby's Home has the ones with the butterfly lid/matching body - and the blue ground examples I've seen on other sites are also with matching blue lids...

After reading up on some Straits specific literature the past few weeks, my shot in the dark theory is this:
Straits pieces, while vibrant and illustrious, were usually commissioned by the families living in the area of export. Maybe it was purposeful at the request of the original owner - or maybe whomever owned it after broke the lid, ect and had to improvise. Fun to imagine regardless, and it is kinda unique as a result 🤣 

Super jealous of the Meissen plate!!! I absolutely must see when you get around to posting it

Stay blessed - and best regards,
-JRN 


   
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13/04/2020 5:22 pm  

Hi,

To me it looks late 20th century. Regards


   
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Topic starter 13/04/2020 10:06 pm  

@springmeier
Could very well be - from my understanding they were used domestically well into the Republic Period in lieu of more western targeted exports; but I was just going by what Sotheby's Home said (for the butterfly jars, of which I do think this lid was a later ad-on) and most of the listings on Catawiki/LiveA/ect.. (tho I do admit that's a bit of shaky faith sometimes 😆)

Jingdezhen was of course the supplier due to the nature of most Straits & descendants being able enough to afford such vibrant and uniquely enameled pieces at the time, but I spent a lot of time trying to find mix-matched examples of this jar and couldn't (other than of course the pastel stacking towers, ect) - so I think it could even be a 19th&20th hybrid, or (much more possible) a 20/20th Frankenstein easter jar.

Happy to correct title to reflect definite Republic Period if needed - don't want to mislead people, or have this as a bad frame of reference for future people to stumble across and get confused, my apologies.

Best,
-JRN 


   
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