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In response to a request. I have opened up a discussion on this subject matter. 

Peter has many times made reference to the drilling of vases during the 20's as a consequence of the lack of suitable lamps available at the time. Later it became fashionable to convert them. 

I did try and find any references but came up pretty much empty handed. With only one exception from Elizabeth appraisers.

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16/11/2021 9:06 pm  

 I have a pair of large bronze champleve vases with drill marks right through the center of the Qianlong Apocryphal marks on each one. I ran them by Peter and he said they were Republican and probably around that period. I actually purchased them as lamps before I realized they were actually vases!! Thanks Mark, interesting thread for us "students" here.. 🙂

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16/11/2021 11:22 pm  

To answer the question, the vases were converted to lamps, and the hole was needed to mount them on bases and to run the wires. Peter is absolutely correct and very common knowledge in the antiques trade.


   
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I believe decorators like Sister Parrish and Billy Baldwin thought they worked well in traditional interiors with comfy chintz armchairs and federal side tables (on a nice Pembroke table beside the sofa, think Jacqueline Kennedy's redecoration of the White House). 


   
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17/11/2021 2:17 am  

Anthony Allen even distinguishes between drill holes before and after 1930. 

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17/11/2021 3:57 am  

I read that some vases were drilled prior to glazing as the edges are glazed. I also have seen side holes for wiring. I have one like that.


   
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During the lightning revolution the manufacturing process could not keep up with the demand for lamp lighting. It was very expensive shipping and demand slow the system to a crawl. Montgomery wards and several retailers saw and opportunity and in there morning papers advertised lamping kits with instructions. Chinese Art Deco was in swing and Chinese ceramics where abundant. The crazy of lamping was in such demand that the Chinese themselves started to lamp old stock and ship to the west Chinese porcelain from the 1900 was not in high demand as Westerners wanted Antiques but as lamps the novelty was a perfect fit. This period in my opinion has created the molded lamp shape of modern lamps. 


   
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