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A test for dating.
According to the description I would have failed.
Vic
The faces are a strange mixture of two styles, so my guess is modern.
Birgit
Very odd lookin pair of vases. I would like to view the other side, base and the inside.
Oddly one of the figures on the right hand vase is missing one eye and half his nose despite no appearance of any other wear on the remaining images.
The glaze looks OK for republican period. But these have (wood fired) been revived in recent times.
Mark
According to Christie’s they are Kangxi but I’ve always been told that ‘mirror image’ did not exist until the 19th c.
Well, I am surprised. I would have been wrong, too (1920s was my guess) but like you, I have often heard or read the same about mirror images but reading this again, it seems rare but not completely unheard of? It would be interesting to see the bases.
According to Christie’s they are Kangxi but I’ve always been told that ‘mirror image’ did not exist until the 19th c.
Your correct. I believe Peter has mentioned this before. Also wanted to view the back. If it's open and plain then it would be 19th century and not Kangxi period from what I have been told/learned. So according to the notes/description it would appear to be plain on the reverse.
So perhaps guangxu in the style of Kangxi. Interesting!
Mark
Dear Vic, I did not comment before, waiting for comment from others, but since the beginning I had the same opinion. Kangxi period looking, but Kangxi revival indeed. I have no doubts, and not only because of the mirroring.
I see that the sale is by Christie’s, but not a King Street auction. That means a lot, it is not the same.
Giovanni
@shine I think you're right about mirror pairs being 19th c., but the proportions seem wrong with one head larger on one vase than the other. Almost like a married pair of the same design. Still, I wouldn't be sure without hand inspection what age these were.
Green,they are mirror images,any slight variation being the result of individual hand painting.
Giovanni,I agree that Christie’s appear to have varying expertise and are not consistent with their attributions.
Based on appearance of one image I’d say that they are Republic or even modern.
Vic
My first impression was definitely Republic but thinking it may be a trick question, maybe a very good modern fake of Republic.
Mark, you think wood fired, could you please enlighten me. I see a lack of crystal clear glaze and inconsistency of the glaze over all, as if fired in a colder kiln rather than a gas fired kiln producing a mirror like surface of post republic wares or even late Qing wares. Am I correct in my interpretation of wood fired wares?
Hi Ronm,
It's a bit difficult to explain precisely what I mean. I am still researching it.
Wood fired porcelain produces a different glaze than gas fired. The example posted by Shine is a clear example of wood firing. This is partly due to the fluctuations in temperature and the ash that lands on the porcelain.
The best thing is to put a few say early republican pieces along side with a few 80's pieces. The glaze difference will stand out immediately. You can't replicate old porcelain with gas fired kilns.
There is a bit about it via Google from people who are in the business etc.
Unfortunately all this goes out the window. In very recent times kilns have started using wood again trying to replicate the fired look.
Mark
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