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It looks like a late republican piece in my opinion (c.1940). What do you think?
Don’t know anything about Enamel, but the overseas shipping costs of $200 seem a bit exaggerated. And before you get to read the item description you have to read a lot of self-praise from the seller.
Birgit
Hi Springmeier,
It is a very impressive looking cloisonne however I know very little about this area. There is something about this piece that worries me. I just can't put my finger on it atm.
If I was to have a stab at the date I would be thinking along your line of thought. So late Republic, early PROC, maybe, I don't really know. I do know that items like these are being mass produced in China.
The shipping is a fair wack, but so is the weight of just over 9 kilos.
I have bought a number of items from this seller. All good, very happy so far but I have observed in past sales numerous blatantly obvious fakes with dubious provenance etc etc. This seller as with many others often attach so-called high-end provenance without providing further details within the listing or upon request. Simply stating when asked that the owner wants to remain private. Stating that an item belonged to a wealthy expatriate is simply not enough in my opinion and means absolutely nothing!
If you were looking to buy this item I would, if I were so inclined either wait to see others opinion and or ask Peter?
Yep, plenty of self-praise on how good they are at buying, selling etcetera. I wonder how many push ups they can do in one hour. END🤣
In general this seller has fantastic photos of items with an aggressive sales technique to boot in my opinion. As with this seller and all sellers in general I can only offer the following. Only buy what you know. If you don't know, don't bid until you have asked someone who does know. 😊
Mark
Considering they are from Canada, $200 is fair. Unlike Europe where you can ship a 20kg parcel to china with DHL for $80, shipping from North America (and Canada in particular) is very expensive. He probably has to ship it from the US with the United States postal service. If he had to use the canadian post service it would cost him closer to $500.
I recall buying over one year ago from JHT a large framed (10 kilos) paint work 'lounging figures' by contemporary Chinese female artist Jin Weihong (a well-known artist) for a very desirable price.
Because of the size and glass shipping from Canada to Australia was for JHT a nightmare. When I bought it, shipping was listed at $125. However the cost was more than $400+. It took JHT about two weeks of searching for a shipping agent at a reasonable cost. According to them the first quote was close to $700.
To their credit, they honoured the transaction even though I believe in all probability that they lost money. Firstly on the original sale, secondly the shipping.
Mark
I'm far from an expert, but I read on a different forum that the brown enamel that looks granulated starts showing up around the 1950s.
I came across this similar (but different) piece that went unsold at a Sworders auction in 2019. I suppose it would have received a bid if anyone thought it was a good antique.
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