The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.
Basic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum: Talk about whatever you want. You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic. Maximum image file size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube, Vimeo etc.
NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button.
While today most of the collecting which takes place seems to focus heavily and almost solely on porcelain, bronze, jade, cloisonne, calligraphy and fine paintings, what about everything else?
I've always thought things like finely carved wooden figures, top quality metal works in pewter, silver, paktong and other wares are terribly overlooked by serious collectors. Not to mention hair ornaments, minor and export paintings or intricately done enamels, many made well into the 20th C.
Does anyone (like me) find these interesting and at time irresistible to collect?
For the work and skill to make many of them, I personally find them fascinating and a true bargain relative to other types of objects. Also, a great way to build a satisfying collection without a major financial commitment.
best, Peter
Peter
the fabulous examples of materials like silver, pewter, paktong are not cheap, at least here in the chinese market. If they are cheaper in international market, i feel lucky.
Hello,peter I no what you are saying I collect wood and soapstone carving figurines with small amounts of lvory,bone figure. With Chinese porcelain market bringing high prices collecter simply over look some great peace that are on the market
Hi,
There are so many beautiful objects that can still be bought at reasonable prices, which as you say, means they are accessible to collectors lacking the financial resources to buy the top price items.
In my chaotic, over-filled home, I can feel comfortable leaving them out to look at, handle, use and love!
Julia
Over the years that I have been dealing, I have always found that things come and go in the market place, one minute something is fetching good money, the next minute the market has dropped for the same thing. I used to deal in silver for quite a few years, the market for that has really dropped to what it used to be like. Now I am dealing in Chinese which is very new to me, I have only been doing it for about a year and I have already seen quite a drop to the lower end. I always remember what somebody said to me, an old dealer, you always can sell something which is very good, which is still true. Going back to what Peter said, I am putting quite a lot of stuff aside, and I am pretty sure that some of these things will be appreciated at some point. My opinion is that the Chinese market may be slightly depressed at the moment. I was talking to some Chinese people in London, that live in China, and they told me that a lot of the shops that was only selling Chinese porcelain had closed down now. I would imagine that this has had a big effect on the market place on the lower end. I also remember when I used to buy Chinese silver for nothing, nobody wanted it. Now people are running around in the trade and asking for it, so this shows that it is starting to be appreciated. Definitely some things in the Chinese market is not appreciated at the moment, so I think these things will become stronger eventually.
Even today with some gain in interest with Chinese silver, for what it is and quality, the prices are I think terribly reasonable. Many other types of objects are laggards despite being superbly well done.
Just as an example, this enamel on brass vase was made during the half of the 20th C. or before. It is however exceptionally well done, very good quality work and I picked it up for next to nothing just because I liked it.
What do you all have that might fall into this kind of category? Would like to see them.
Peter
Peter and all, there are few people collecting cloisonné, so you can find nice pieces selling unbelievable lower price in market. This vase of Ming Dynasty with Jing Tai market sold only $2300 in auction. Unbelievable!
Cj
@Charlie, If this one is Jingtai, the buyer is a millionaire now, but unfortunately, he is not.
Another area of underrated decorative art is unsigned by "anonymous" paintings.
We hear a great deal about signed works which identify the artist, but many of the best were never signed. Like this one. Early Ming,(some say possibly late Yuan). I bought at an estate auction of a collection from Grosse Point Michigan 26 years ago. The auction was held in Boston by a small local company.
One of my favorites. I bought it to keep and paid very little for it which only made keeping it so much easier.
Best Peter
Please excuse the mediocre photo quality, taken on a phone.
Peter
It's a good discussion- there are many areas of underrated arts in these categories. Slightly off topic, but Japanese cloisonne has been an interest of mine for some time and I feel is often vastly undervalued against the time spent/quality of some pieces. I believe it is beginning to gain momentum and becoming more popular, especially the famous artists.
I have always appreciated semi precious carving within Chinese Art. Materials such as agate, lapis, amethyst, rock crystal - some of the work is exquisite and is often underrated, however, I must point out this rock crystal figure from a recent sale at Christies, the carving was superb and I believe earlier than they described - as the selling price might suggest. Wonderful carving. So yes , not exactly underrated in this case but an uncommon occurence.
I agree,, I think they missed the dating. Stylistically the Christie's piece looks early Qing, especially in smokey crystal with gilt. Not something you see on 19th C. examples. It could even be older, late Ming. Very unusual. IMHO
Peter
Peter
Great Topic - I think the most underrated item is the Silver inlayed bronzes from the warring states period, most do not realize that it was this time that the bronzes took a major change going from only the Emperor`s and royal court people owning them and being mostly used for ceremonial purposes, They now started being creative with designs painted on the bronze with silver or gold and not cast into the bronze, everyone wanted them, from north to south they were making them, and this started what would later be done to porcelains, this was the beginning of a major change, no longer ceremonial and olny for the royal families
Artisans were able to get really creative here with daily scenes, poetry, stylistic lines and flowers etc... This was the beginning and without this there would be no porcelain paintings today, totally overlooked and underrated - But I have many, there will come a day you will not be able to buy them anymore.
richard severson
My first antique, a turtle seal - bought at a flea market when I was fifteen years old for a few $. My guess is ca. 1900, and I don't know if it has some value, but it is nicely executed.
Birgit
Hello Peter, if this painting is real, it was painted by Artist Zhao ZhiEng of Yuan Dynasty. Most of his paintings were collected by palace or well known collectors in history. Those are pictures I found in internet, you can see that they bear lot of seals of their previous owners, including QianLong Emporer.
Charles
Cj
Latest Post: Kutani dish - Edo or Meiji? Our newest member: James Close Recent Posts Unread Posts
Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"
If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.
Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.
Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects. As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.
Thank you,
Peter Combs
Topics and categories on The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes.
Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today
The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art
A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube. Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings.
The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.
The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...
Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.
China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.
Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...
Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...
Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.
Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...
Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.
The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.
The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...
Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.
Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.
With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.
Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.
Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.
Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.
Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries
Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.
Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map
Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.