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While today most of the collecting which takes place seems to focus heavily and almost solely on porcelain, bronze, jade, cloisonne, calligraphy and fine paintings, what about everything else?
I've always thought things like finely carved wooden figures, top quality metal works in pewter, silver, paktong and other wares are terribly overlooked by serious collectors. Not to mention hair ornaments, minor and export paintings or intricately done enamels, many made well into the 20th C.
Does anyone (like me) find these interesting and at time irresistible to collect?
For the work and skill to make many of them, I personally find them fascinating and a true bargain relative to other types of objects. Also, a great way to build a satisfying collection without a major financial commitment.
best, Peter
Peter
the fabulous examples of materials like silver, pewter, paktong are not cheap, at least here in the chinese market. If they are cheaper in international market, i feel lucky.
Hello,peter I no what you are saying I collect wood and soapstone carving figurines with small amounts of lvory,bone figure. With Chinese porcelain market bringing high prices collecter simply over look some great peace that are on the market
Hi,
There are so many beautiful objects that can still be bought at reasonable prices, which as you say, means they are accessible to collectors lacking the financial resources to buy the top price items.
In my chaotic, over-filled home, I can feel comfortable leaving them out to look at, handle, use and love!
Julia
Over the years that I have been dealing, I have always found that things come and go in the market place, one minute something is fetching good money, the next minute the market has dropped for the same thing. I used to deal in silver for quite a few years, the market for that has really dropped to what it used to be like. Now I am dealing in Chinese which is very new to me, I have only been doing it for about a year and I have already seen quite a drop to the lower end. I always remember what somebody said to me, an old dealer, you always can sell something which is very good, which is still true. Going back to what Peter said, I am putting quite a lot of stuff aside, and I am pretty sure that some of these things will be appreciated at some point. My opinion is that the Chinese market may be slightly depressed at the moment. I was talking to some Chinese people in London, that live in China, and they told me that a lot of the shops that was only selling Chinese porcelain had closed down now. I would imagine that this has had a big effect on the market place on the lower end. I also remember when I used to buy Chinese silver for nothing, nobody wanted it. Now people are running around in the trade and asking for it, so this shows that it is starting to be appreciated. Definitely some things in the Chinese market is not appreciated at the moment, so I think these things will become stronger eventually.
Even today with some gain in interest with Chinese silver, for what it is and quality, the prices are I think terribly reasonable. Many other types of objects are laggards despite being superbly well done.
Just as an example, this enamel on brass vase was made during the half of the 20th C. or before. It is however exceptionally well done, very good quality work and I picked it up for next to nothing just because I liked it.
What do you all have that might fall into this kind of category? Would like to see them.
Peter
Peter and all, there are few people collecting cloisonné, so you can find nice pieces selling unbelievable lower price in market. This vase of Ming Dynasty with Jing Tai market sold only $2300 in auction. Unbelievable!
Cj
@Charlie, If this one is Jingtai, the buyer is a millionaire now, but unfortunately, he is not.
Another area of underrated decorative art is unsigned by "anonymous" paintings.
We hear a great deal about signed works which identify the artist, but many of the best were never signed. Like this one. Early Ming,(some say possibly late Yuan). I bought at an estate auction of a collection from Grosse Point Michigan 26 years ago. The auction was held in Boston by a small local company.
One of my favorites. I bought it to keep and paid very little for it which only made keeping it so much easier.
Best Peter
Please excuse the mediocre photo quality, taken on a phone.
Peter
It's a good discussion- there are many areas of underrated arts in these categories. Slightly off topic, but Japanese cloisonne has been an interest of mine for some time and I feel is often vastly undervalued against the time spent/quality of some pieces. I believe it is beginning to gain momentum and becoming more popular, especially the famous artists.
I have always appreciated semi precious carving within Chinese Art. Materials such as agate, lapis, amethyst, rock crystal - some of the work is exquisite and is often underrated, however, I must point out this rock crystal figure from a recent sale at Christies, the carving was superb and I believe earlier than they described - as the selling price might suggest. Wonderful carving. So yes , not exactly underrated in this case but an uncommon occurence.
I agree,, I think they missed the dating. Stylistically the Christie's piece looks early Qing, especially in smokey crystal with gilt. Not something you see on 19th C. examples. It could even be older, late Ming. Very unusual. IMHO
Peter
Peter
Great Topic - I think the most underrated item is the Silver inlayed bronzes from the warring states period, most do not realize that it was this time that the bronzes took a major change going from only the Emperor`s and royal court people owning them and being mostly used for ceremonial purposes, They now started being creative with designs painted on the bronze with silver or gold and not cast into the bronze, everyone wanted them, from north to south they were making them, and this started what would later be done to porcelains, this was the beginning of a major change, no longer ceremonial and olny for the royal families
Artisans were able to get really creative here with daily scenes, poetry, stylistic lines and flowers etc... This was the beginning and without this there would be no porcelain paintings today, totally overlooked and underrated - But I have many, there will come a day you will not be able to buy them anymore.
richard severson
My first antique, a turtle seal - bought at a flea market when I was fifteen years old for a few $. My guess is ca. 1900, and I don't know if it has some value, but it is nicely executed.
Birgit
Hello Peter, if this painting is real, it was painted by Artist Zhao ZhiEng of Yuan Dynasty. Most of his paintings were collected by palace or well known collectors in history. Those are pictures I found in internet, you can see that they bear lot of seals of their previous owners, including QianLong Emporer.
Charles
Cj
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