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Hi Everyone,
I was recently gifted a porcelain art plate (Cindy Sherman's "9 Lives of Cindy") from a friend. It had arrived broken when he bought it and he glued it together in a way that leaves some gaps; it could look better.
My question: is it worth trying to unglue and reglue it back together? I don't think it's worth taking to a professional restorer (its value is probably a couple hundred dollars) and it looks OK now without closeup scrutiny.
Would like to know what you think.
Regards,
Steve
Hi Steve,
Without images makes it difficult to judge etc
As you know professional repairs are expensive. Do given your estimate of value or would not be worth it.
Mark
Hi Mark,
Photos would help, wouldn't they? 😜
As you can see the repair job is inexact although it only broke once (one crack). Light goes through the crack in one section. Some surface detail on the front was lost as well.
What I want to know is if anyone has attempted taking apart a glued plate before and has advice. I think the next step is to see if my friend remembers what kind of glue he used. I read that you can use acetate to take it apart but what about the edges? I want to be able to put it together more tightly.
Steve
Hi Steve,
It looks OK.
But if you want to tighten it up I think you will need a professional restorer.
Even some are not that good. Have a look at the restoration work on the traditional vase posted by @xin_fawis.
Personally given it low value I would leave it alone.
Mark
I have to admit I have never heard of Cindy Sherman before… If it’s just a decoration piece there’s no risk in trying your hand at a repair. I would try soaking in warm water, acetone or dichlormethane to break it apart (in that order until it breaks apart). Or you ask what glue was used. Then clean the edges thoroughly and reglue with a two-component glue. I sometimes glue modern plates for a friend who regularly breaks them. They are easier to repair than old plates because usually there’s no inner tension in the porcelain so the parts still fit together. But sometimes there was an inner tension and the two parts don’t fit. Then you have to work with clamps or leave it as it is.
Birgit
Steve,
I have taken many pieces apart, but I will say that without knowing the adhesive it can get quite tricky. When I get to my workshop later I will snap a photo of the super glue remover I have used recently that has a slower evaporation time allowing it to soften the glue. There is still of course a lot of mechanical removal required as certain "super" glues have different compositions.
Household epoxies, like a five minute or quick set can usually be removed with acetone, or toulene (this is extremely toxic and I always wear a respirator), some may be softened with methanol (but wear nitrile gloves as this will be absorbed through your skin) and then scraped away.
There are many other epoxies, such as resin compounds that are only removable by mechanical means.
Another option is to heat it until it fails, but this can only be done under certain conditions, I do not recommend this option unless you are certain of the porcelain and that the epoxy or glue will burn off.
The most prized plate I own came to me glued back together, it was a gift, and the gap was significant. I spent about five hours removing an unknown epoxy with a mixture of toulene and methanol, and a small dental pick. Was it worth it? for me yes, for most probably not.
As for gluing it back together, I always use something removable for pieces that I put back together. Sturgeon glue and rice starch glues happen to be my favorites (will not stress or use), but there are many conservation grade adhesives available online (depending where you live Talas in New York is who I buy from... link below)
I happen to clean paintings, and conserve early furniture so my supply of chemicals and safety equipment is rather unlimited.
Good luck,
Jeremy
talasonline.com/
Thank you for the interest and advice, everyone. "First, do no harm" will be my motto going forward. Although the repair is pretty visible and that bothers me, until I know more about the adhesive I will refrain from attempting anything. The plate is from a series of 100 and goes for over $1000 new, which is why I think a repaired example would be worth around 20% of that. Who knows? They may go up in value, in which case taking it to a reputable porcelain repair specialist might be the way to go. For now I'll hold off.
It's my only piece of contemporary art (so far). Cindy Sherman is a trained photographer who specializes in staging myriad self-portraits that suggest different characters, different facets of femininity and womanhood, often with a satirical eye. I really enjoy her sense of humor and find myself smiling every time I look at the plate.
Jeremy,
Thank you for the detailed information! I learned a lot.
Regards,
Steve
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