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Hi everyone,
Just have a general question, when doing research on anything how and where do we go about doing it?
This forum is a great place I know that, but when doing our own research are there certain websites or certain books we look at?
eBay is a good place but can't always trust whats on there and I can't really think of anywhere else to go and I looked all over.
So if I can get any tips or recommendations on how all of you do your research on items I would be very grateful.
Thanks,
Matt
Hi Matt,
I'm new to this field so I'm finding it difficult too. I have started a small collection of books but because they're quite expensive they're not something I can buy in bulk, all at the same time. My local library has some books on Chinese art and porcelain but they're reference only books so I can only read them in the reference room, it's not really helpful at 9pm when you want to check something quickly at home. Ditto museums - without being to handle them, look underneath etc they're only helpful in researching style, form colour?
So I tend to attack a question from all angles - Google, ebay, this forum, dealer websites (these can be rich resources), the books I do have, catawiki and, on occasion, sites like Etsy. By far the best is this forum. It enables you to do some legwork on your own and then have a discussion with others with far more knowledge.
Using all these sources, you can usually build a pretty complete picture of a piece you're researching. Ultimately, I think you need a good personal library - individual books on each aspect/era/'family' of porcelain.
Nic
Tap on to it put in what you looking for, Chinese porcelain.
Hello,Matt,Nic
If you go to top of page to referencebookcase and tap on to it, there books you can read or
the YouTube videos at the top long with dealer-auctioneers that’s has books from past auctions.
Of Christie’s or Sotheby’s you can check past sells here some on line books you can down load.
Hope this help John
alain truong has a good site which features the best items from current and past major auctions;
sites like ebay , etsy, ruby lane and invaluable and the saleroom are no good in my opinion since they throw up far too many fakes, similarly random google searches or searches on pinterest will produce pages of fakes and be very misleading.
Trocadero is a bit better because there are serious dealers there (not all).
Some museum collections in the UK , like oxford , bristol, birmingham , durham, and of course the london ones , have amazing collections and seeing in the real can make a huge difference in terms of colours , size and proportions , glaze effects, decoration etc. The Bowes museum in Barnard Castle has a great collection of export porcelain and many stately homes in the UK probably have some chinese things on display.
Now the UK museum websites, and the Met Museum etc, in the US are excellent (although searching can take forever, and they all use different search keywords and terms) and they sometimes give pictures of the bases of items. Also of course , visiting the major auction houses past results can produce great info and pictures.
I also think building a book collection is unrealistic and very expensive for the casual collector. But the Tommy Ekflor book on facial recognition would probably pay for itself almost immediately.
The best resource for porcelain are, imo , Peter's educational /identification videos and his weekly trawls thru' ebay, are of course excellent ; there is nothing like them elsewhere on youtube. He shows so many items that the videos can viewed over and again.
tam
I can recommend the books of Anthony Allen , especially „The detection of fakes“. It’s not about museum pieces but rather about the things normal people can afford.
Birgit
Speaking for myself, I've been using a combination of Christies and Rob Michiels (I would go as far as saying that Rob Michiels is actually more valuable as a learning source than Christies, Sothebys, Bonhams, etc., for that simple reason that they have many high res photos of almost all items they sell, something that the others unfortunately don't have), as well as books and google (although google is a very questionable source, unless you limit your search string, and even then you should be skeptical). I have to add that in my experience you find more of what you are looking for on Christies, by using google to search on Christies (for those that don't know how to do that, simply add "site:christies.com" to your search string).
I have a couple of Anthony Allen's books, and as much as I like them, they can be damn confusing as well. I really think that Chinese porcelain is still missing a great primer, a handbook with great pictures and detailed explanations, focused on helping both totally green novices as well as more experienced collectors. I'm also aware that the field might be too big for something like that, but one's hoping.
Other than those, I've found Peter's videos and this forum to be useful, helpful and educational, and even though it might not always be able to supply the answers, in many cases it can stimulate enough to find the answers on your own.
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