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Jg1133
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Topic starter 22/12/2021 9:30 am  

Hello Everyone,

Curious on this piece:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304256729137?5338050775=&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&customid=link&campid=5337935675&toolid=20001&mkevt=1#vi__app-cvip-panel

It sold for $33K USD. I am assuming that the artist was the contributing factor to such a high price. I am curious I anyone can provide some insight on this? Very curious I must say! We have all seen this type of late Qing/Republic porcelain, and to be honest, I am not sure I would have found anything particularly special about this one based on the form and decoration to take it up to the tune of $33K.

I see that, unfortunately, it was not paid and is relisted at $25K as a buy it now. If it is by a well known artist worth that price, it should get scooped up. Looking to understand the high price!

Thanks all and happy holidays!

Justin

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22/12/2021 10:22 am  

I can’t help with any of your questions but you can be sure Peter will be mentioning the dead beat non payer.

Ron


   
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Brian Crowe
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22/12/2021 11:48 am  

Following too I was wondering if I missed something these pieces are just going crazy. 


   
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22/12/2021 11:57 am  

I was surprised when I saw it at 6,000.  I half-assumed bidders were doing a good deed for Christmas owing to the charity link, but that seemed a bit far-fetched.  I noticed it has a liner but even so it seemed a steep price.

I didn't realise it went that high. To be honest, I didn't think the decoration was a particularly good example of that style.


   
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22/12/2021 2:12 pm  

I have been watching auctions for last few months and I’ve notice that an item will stay at a low bid until the last 30 minutes and than explode to a high retail value. I’ve been very confused by this strategy as I feel it doesn’t change the outcome. Does any know why the auctions are silent until closing. Aren’t they just overpaying?


   
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22/12/2021 2:37 pm  

@lotusblack Well, they are not paying, who knows why people do the crazy things they do and then to relist it at 25k as a buy it now, when the 33k was not legitimate to begin with, "it is a puzzlement." 


   
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22/12/2021 2:38 pm  

Am I the only one that finds the foot and base on this pot to be a bit odd? I'm not sure this even feels authentically older to me. Could this be a modern reproduction, along with a bunch of shill bidding, etc.? 


   
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22/12/2021 2:44 pm  

@sharonp how do you know if they paid or not?


   
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22/12/2021 3:08 pm  

That's what the topic starter stated.unless I'm on the wrong topic, when these threads get long, that is a distinct possibility.


   
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Topic starter 22/12/2021 3:39 pm  

The item was relisted - however this was already up to $6k with a few days to go, it was not at the last minute. Peter mentioned this is the last Friday video and it was in the newsletter - I don't understand what I am missing with this.


   
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22/12/2021 3:48 pm  

Oh ok I can see that the item is re-listed at $25000 some fishy business going on. 


   
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22/12/2021 4:28 pm  

 

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@lotusblack 

Yes, there is an App you can buy eBay Bidder. You enter the highest price you’re willing to pay and it waits until the auction is almost over and “snipes” the bidding. You Buy credits and pay a Credit for each time item you bid on.

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22/12/2021 4:39 pm  

@ronm 

The artist is Cheng Men.

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Men. Here’s a piece by him I found on Gotheborg 


   
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Topic starter 22/12/2021 5:26 pm  

@tukfrump Amazing, by a known artist who's work sells in the 6 figures. Based on the bidders and history it didn't look like shell bidding to me. Sad example of a non-paying bidder for what could potentially be a great rarity.


   
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22/12/2021 5:37 pm  

That pots a steal at $25000 if authentic  

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