BidAmount Asian Art News

Auctions Of Chinese and Asian Art, Auction Results News

  • Home
  • Weekly News Letter Page
  • The Forum
  • YouTube
  • plcombs Asian Art
    • Visit plcombs-Chinese-Asian Art
    • About, plcombs Chinese-Asian Art Antique Dealer | Massachusetts
  • About Us
  • Contact Us
  • A Few Site Pages
  • Recomended Books
  • Blog
  • Sign Up-Global Member Pages
  • Sign In-Global Member Pages
You are here: Home / The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

The Chinese and Asian Art Forum. For Fans, Collectors and Dealers.


Asian art booksBasic Rules For the BidAmount Asian Art Forum:  Talk about whatever you want.  You can even discuss and offer things that are for sale if they are authentic.  Maximum image file  size per post is 2 MB. Images of 700pxl x 700pxl are optimal if saved at a medium resolution. Be respectful of others and enjoy yourself. Click the YouTube link for a brief tutorial on using the forum. You can also EMBED Videos by cutting and pasting from You-Tube,  Vimeo etc.  

NOTE: To post an item or add a new post, click open the category title from the FORUM LIST, and CLICK the Blue ADD TOPIC button. 

Forums
The FORUM List
General Discussion ...
one example of how ...
 
Notifications
Clear all

one example of how far fake tech has achieved in china

 
Page 1 / 3 Next
    Last Post
  RSS

JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 2:06 am  

here is one black ding sherd,a fake i bought in the past. they even ventured to break it to sell better(last pic is christie auction resultfor comparison)

9AA7C0B5 8A8B 4170 9F6D 0C231666C700
1838D303 00E6 412A 88F1 77F53A066EE2
E5B56331 A5F3 424D 97F6 CD04BDF496C6
88E6BCB3 0123 425A A171 E38328E4E81A
0BDF7CB9 8A98 4384 80F8 AA4D5ABF12E0

  

 


   
Adams Asian Art reacted
Quote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 7:49 am  

Where did you get this? And are you absolutely certain it's a fake? 

I have such a bowl too. A black Ding conicial 'partridge feather' bowl that appear very correct in its various aspects.

The only thing about that could appear suspect is how the black glaze stops vvery neatly around the foot-ring creating an fine even border and how the intereior of the foot is also very evenly glazed like on your bowl.

But I researched this and found excavated examples of black Ding bases that are also evenly glazed like this and therefore concluded that this is correct.

Here you can see some of those examples.

0

Picture is found on this site.

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/mmekgvz.html  

 

And here is another one.

1

 Found on this site.  

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/bmerq6.html

 

 

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 8:41 am  

There is also this persimmon Ding bowl coming up at Bonhams that also has a very evenly glazed base.

 

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28990/lot/122/a-superb-and-rare-ding-persimmon-glazed-conical-bowl-northern-song-dynasty-2/

 

This post was modified 2 years ago by avatar

   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 8:45 am  

i know the collector of your pic in person.

i m sure of what i say as fake 😀 

Posted by: @avatar
↑

Where did you get this? And are you absolutely certain it's a fake? 

I have such a bowl too. A black Ding conicial 'partridge feather' bowl that appear very correct in its various aspects.

The only thing about that could appear suspect is how the black glaze stops vvery neatly around the foot-ring creating an fine even border and how the intereior of the foot is also very evenly glazed like on your bowl.

But I researched this and found excavated examples of black Ding bases that are also evenly glazed like this and therefore concluded that this is correct.

Here you can see some of those examples.

-- attachment is not available --

Picture is found on this site.

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/mmekgvz.html  

 

And here is another one.

-- attachment is not available --

 Found on this site.  

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/bmerq6.html

 

 

 

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 8:47 am  

i will show some real black ding sherds later .bit busy now


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 8:49 am  

 

the persimmon example u showed from bonhams might not be ding but yaozhou.

 

talk later

quote data-userid="7478" data-postid="84812"]

There is also this persimmon Ding bowl coming up at Bonhams that also has a very evenly glazed base.

 

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28990/lot/122/a-superb-and-rare-ding-persimmon-glazed-conical-bowl-northern-song-dynasty-2/

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 8:50 am  

I should perhaps be noted that the list of similar bowl quoted by Christie's is not complete. They only mention one partridge feather Ding bowl at the National Palace Museum but there are in fact two such bowls in the said collection.

 

http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2018/02/26/36177317.html

 


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 8:52 am  

base cut is not decisive bar for authentication.

no single criteria is.


   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 8:54 am  

And there are even more out there in various collections. This one is in a private European collection.

0
0 (1)

Pictur is found on this site.

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/9n6lmlj.html?fbclid=IwAR2ZCRyBEoLKUbh5vvbc-6A9Qpsy-wF72Lhh45rurGD80fq0JxKn6wHm8no

 


   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 8:58 am  

Sorry, I didn't see you had replied. But i didn't talk about the  base cut but the glazing of the base ...


   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 9:26 am  

There is also this bowl sold at Ragoarts which is unusual for the large size. Like white-glazed Ding ware sometimes have 'teardrops' this bowl has a kind of silvery-grey teardrops. Interestingly the bowl I have has the same kind of teardrops. 

 

221 2 song to scheier the joan r brownstein ceramics collection july 2021 chinese unusually large black glazed bowl  rago auction

 

Note that it is not stated to be Ding ware in the description but it most likely is.

 

https://www.ragoarts.com/auctions/2021/07/song-to-scheier-the-joan-r-brownstein-ceramics-collection/221

This post was modified 2 years ago by avatar

   
ReplyQuote
avatar
 avatar
(@avatar)
Noble Member
Joined: 6 years ago
Posts: 1427
21/11/2023 9:43 am  

I would have thought that the bowl you posted is authentic but if you have knowledge it is fake then I guess it is fake ...

 


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 10:05 am  

this has nothing to do with song,personally speaking

Posted by: @avatar
↑

There is also this bowl sold at Ragoarts which is unusual for the large size. Like white-glazed Ding ware sometimes have 'teardrops' this bowl has a kind of silvery-grey teardrops. Interestingly the bowl I have has the same kind of teardrops. 

 

-- attachment is not available --

 

Note that it is not stated to be Ding ware in the description but it most likely is.

 

https://www.ragoarts.com/auctions/2021/07/song-to-scheier-the-joan-r-brownstein-ceramics-collection/221

 


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 10:05 am  

u are modest friend 😀

Posted by: @avatar
↑

I would have thought that the bowl you posted is authentic but if you have knowledge it is fake then I guess it is fake ...

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
JIAWEI HE
 JIAWEI HE
(@jiawei-he)
Honorable Member
Joined: 7 years ago
Posts: 484
Topic starter 21/11/2023 10:06 am  

this one is highly suspicious

Posted by: @avatar
↑

And there are even more out there in various collections. This one is in a private European collection.

-- attachment is not available --
-- attachment is not available --

Pictur is found on this site.

 

https://kknews.cc/culture/9n6lmlj.html?fbclid=IwAR2ZCRyBEoLKUbh5vvbc-6A9Qpsy-wF72Lhh45rurGD80fq0JxKn6wHm8no

 

 


   
ReplyQuote
Page 1 / 3 Next
Forum Jump:
  Previous Topic
Next Topic  

Notice

Weekly Video’s on You Tube, Subscribe Today!

Bidamount on Youtube asian Art news

Hundreds of Online Auction Catalogs

Chinese Art Auction Catalogs

Blog Archive

Global Auction “member pages”, get them all in just one place.

chinese porcelain auctions

Join our weekly newsletter for current eBay Asian Art Listings

Newsletter Sign Up
For Email Newsletters you can trust.

Get Our Thoughts On Any Auction Listing Anywhere, BEFORE You Bid

asian art auction

Click to View the News Letter Page

Asian Art News

Recent Posts

  • Pierre Le-Tan Auction Chinese, Japanese and Islamic Art Paris
  • Investing in Chinese Art Versus Collecting Chinese Art
  • Later Chinese Bronzes of the Song to Qing Dynasty
  • Asia Week In New York City September 2020 The Auctions
  • Japanese and Chinese Art Collection of Brian Page At Ma San Auctioneers
  • Bidit Auctions Fakes of Chinese Art In Marietta Georgia | Opinion
Click Here
Share:
  Forum Statistics
8 Forums
12.3 K Topics
91.3 K Posts
54 Online
7,690 Members

Latest Post: Japanese teapot Our newest member: rental plaza Recent Posts Unread Posts Tags

Forum Icons: Forum contains no unread posts Forum contains unread posts

Topic Icons: Not Replied Replied Active Hot Sticky Unapproved Solved Private Closed

Powered by wpForo  Powered by wpForo version 2.4.5

Super Globals

Options and Features



Thanks for visiting "The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art"

If you sell on eBay, or have a shop feel free to post images and descriptions and links.

Check back often for discussion about the latest news in the Chinese art and antique world. Also find out about the latest Asian art auctions at Sotheby's, Christie's, Bonhams and Tajans.

Auction results for: fine porcelain, ceramics, bronze, jade, textiles and scholar's objects.  As well as Japanese, Thai, Vietnamese and other Asian cultures.

Thank you,

Peter Combs


Topics and categories on  The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

Kangxi vases, Kangxi dishes and chargers, Kangxi ritual pieces, Kangxi scholar's objects, Qianlong famille rose, Qianlong enamels, Qianlong period paintings, Qianlong Emporer's court, Fine porcelain of the Yongzheng period. Chinese imperial art, Ming porcelain including Jiajing, Wanli, Xuande, Chenghua as well as Ming jades and bronzes. 

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

Join the BidAmount Chinese and Asian art discussion board and forum today

The BidAmount Asian Art Forum | Chinese Art

A free Asian art discussion board and Asian art message board for dealers and collectors of art and antiques from China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and the rest of Asia. Linked to all of the BidAmount Asian art reference areas, with videos from plcombs Asian Art and Bidamount on YouTube.  Sign up also for the weekly BidAmount newsletter and catalogs of active eBay listing of Chinese porcelain, bronze, jades, robes, and paintings. 

Ancient Chinese Art - Ancient History Encyclopedia

The art of calligraphy - and for the ancient Chinese it certainly was an art - aimed to demonstrate superior control and skill using brush and ink. Calligraphy established itself as one of the major Chinese art forms during the Han dynasty (206 BCE - 220 CE), and for two millennia after, all educated men were expected to be proficient at it.

Arts of Asia | The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston

The Museum’s collections of Asian art span nearly five millennia and encompass the cultures of China, the Himalayas, India, Japan, Korea, and Southeast Asia. In 2007, the Museum launched an initiative to create dedicated galleries for the collection, beginning with a gallery for the arts of Korea ...

Chinese Art: Characteristics, History - Art Encyclopedia

Chinese art is full of symbolism, in that artists typically seek to depict some aspect of a totality of which they are intuitively aware.

China Online Museum - Chinese Art Galleries: Home

China Online Museum is the finest online museum of Chinese art. It features Chinese calligraphy, painting, ceramics, bronzes, carving, and other artworks.

Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art | Christie's

Chinese Ceramics & Works of Art. Overview Upcoming auctions Contacts Auction results ... Christie’s sales of Chinese ceramics and works of art showcase centuries of Chinese history. Held throughout the year in London, New York, Paris and Hong Kong, they attract a wide audience of collectors and connoisseurs vying for pieces as diverse as ...

Fine Chinese Paintings | Christie's

Explore Asian Art Week. Contact the Specialist Department. Chinese Paintings ... Senior Specialist, Head of Sale. [email protected]. Tel:+1 212 641 5760. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 September 2019 at New York. Bid in-person or online for the upcoming auction:Fine Chinese Paintings on 10 ...

Asian Art Week | New York | September 2019 | Christie's

Discover an abundance of must-see art from all corners of a vast continent at Christie’s NY Asian Art Week. From contemporary classical and Chinese paintings to works with exemplary provenance from the Art Institute of Chicago, our Rockefeller Paza galleries will be full of ancient treasures and contemporary masterworks in a salute to the vibrant arts of Asia.

Chinese Art from The Art Institute of Chicago | Christie's

Sold to benefit The Art Institute of Chicago’s Asian Art Acquisition Fund, the sale features 84 lots with a focus on Ming and Qing porcelains, and offers a rare insight into the taste for collecting Chinese ceramics and works of art in the Midwest from the end of the 19th century through the 1980s. Highlights include two Wanli wucai garlic-head vases, a Qianlong mark and period, blue and ...

Chinese Art in Hong Kong: A Brief ... - Christie's Education

Specialist, Chinese Paintings, Christie's London Dr Malcolm McNeill is a Specialist in Chinese Paintings at Christie’s, based in London. He previously worked as an assistant curator of the Chinese collections and the Victoria and Albert Museum in London, as a researcher at the British Museum, and as a translator and tour guide at the National Palace Museum in Taipei.

The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art ...

The Christie's Education 2020 Conference: The Chinese Art Market 18 Jun 2019 Christie’s Education is delighted to announce our first international academic conference in Asia which will take place in Hong Kong from 26-27 November 2020 at the Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre and will run in parallel with Christie’s Hong Kong Autumn Auctions.

Chinese Art | Sotheby's

The summer Chinese Art sale in Hong Kong will feature works of art from several private collections, including Qing porcelains and textile from the collection of the legendary Chinese art dealer A. W. Bahr (1877–1959), fine gilt bronze Buddhist sculptures from an old Hong Kong collection, an East Asian collection of Qing dynasty wine cups and jades, and a Japanese collection of Song ceramics ...

Chinese Art Auctions - Chinese Paintings ... - Sothebys.com

Sotheby's Chinese Works of Art Department holds two auctions each year in London, New York, Hong Kong and Paris.

Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Chinese Art - View Auction details, bid, buy and collect the various artworks at Sothebys Art Auction House.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

With more than 340 Chinese works of art dating from the Neolithic to the Republic periods, highlights of this sale include a selection of Qing Imperial monochromes from the collection of Arnold and Blema Steinberg, early ceramics from the Art Institute of Chicago and Chinese porcelain and works of art from the collection of Henry Arnhold.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Results: Sotheby's Asia Week achieved $52.4 million in six strong auctions, exceeding pre-sale estimates. With 76.5% of lots sold and 60.3% of lots surpassing high estimates, the Asian art sales at Sotheby's indicate continued collector interest in the finest works of art from China, India and and the Himalayas.

Important Chinese Art | Sotheby's

Today's sale of Important Chinese Art will proceed as planned with sessions at 10 AM and 2 PM EDT. Sotheby's will be monitoring the weather conditions throughout the day and will be available to coordinate alternative bidding options should conditions make it difficult for clients to attend the auction in person.

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art

Bonhams Chinese Art department is renowned for offering the finest works of art representing the richness and breadth of China's artistic heritage, particularly Imperial porcelain, white and spinach green jades, cloisonné and Buddhist art. Specialised international auctions are held globally, including London, Hong Kong and San Francisco.

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art

Bonhams : Chinese Works of Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Paintings and Works of Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Chinese Art (US) General enquiries

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art

Bonhams : Fine Chinese Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. Please refer to our privacy and cookie policies for more information.

Bonhams : Asian Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars Bonhams : Asian Art We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site.

Bonhams | Asian Art in London

Bonhams are international auctioneers of fine Chinese and Japanese art. We specialise in rare Imperial and Export Chinese ceramics and works of art, as well as Japanese ceramics, fine and decorative works of art from the Neolithic Period to the 20th century. View on map

Bonhams : Asian Art

Bonhams Fine Art Auctioneers & Valuers: auctioneers of art, pictures, collectables and motor cars. We use cookies to remember choices you make on functionality and personal features to enhance your experience to our site. By continuing to use our site you consent to the use of cookies. ... Asian Art Bonhams. Work. 22 Queen St.

Bidamount is a member of the eBay partner network, eBay is a registered trademark of eBay Inc. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of the Bidamount User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Bidamount, 185 Main Street Suite B., Gloucester, Ma. all content © 2006–2025

proudly powered by WordPress | web design by smallfish-design

‹›×

    ‹›×