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Topic starter 11/05/2018 10:18 am  

Found  this today £ 30 pound English  I no  its ivory for sure but dont no the mark  the seller thought it was bone  


   
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11/05/2018 6:15 pm  

Hello,

It is really nicely done, the proportions are good, details not bad - hands, the trickiest part for any artist are done well in this case, the head and facial expression - also good, i like the monkey and that little tree as well...

Popular motif.

The only thing that raises the question here is the age followed by concern regarding the material of course. If it's ivory and it looks like ivory to me, then it better be old.

I had a lot of ivory items in my hands and I think it is really tough some times to judge, can't really say much about the age without feeling it. It looks good. Maybe a bit too white.

Could be late Meiji, circa 1900. If yes, then 30 quid was a bargain. 

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11/05/2018 6:29 pm  

Hello ok

How do you no it ivory did you do a hot pin test on this piece

It look bone from the pictures but it in your hands it easier 

to tell what it is up close than it is from picture. John


   
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11/05/2018 8:28 pm  

The carving itself is pretty good. There are numerous species of ivory the most common being from elephant.

Genuine ivory will have shreger angles (crosshatch grain/ fine circular lines which is the characteristics of elephant ivory).

Grain will look different from species to species, but all genuine ivory will have a natural grain versus bone which will have grooves and or pits (brown or black pores) but has no cross-hatched lines.

From a financial point, I concur with Adrian sentiments.

Mark


   
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Topic starter 12/05/2018 4:23 am  

Thanks for your comments yes hot pin ok i picked a small pieces from same seller £10 100% ivory fishermen 


   
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Topic starter 12/05/2018 5:29 am  

I have this well i call trinket its. looks well done jade or some form not sure not mark light in colour  which might show on photo any idea's 

Thanks chris 


   
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12/05/2018 7:15 am  
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Thanks for your comments yes hot pin ok i picked a small pieces from same seller £10 100% ivory fishermen 

The fisherman is not that good as the guy with monkey. Compare the hands, feet, etc... 

Is that the same photo of the base? 

The figures could be younger than I thought. If that's ivory then I wouldn't post that outside UK.

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12/05/2018 10:56 am  

Hi ok,

You say you know its ivory, just wondering how you know for sure. I’m not saying its not...

If I were to see the crosshatching, as Mark mentioned, I would be relatively sure.  

Todd

take it with a grain of salt


   
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Topic starter 12/05/2018 1:37 pm  

Hi to all

I have  been to  the local  auction and they  have all agreed yes ivory meiji 1850 19th  century figures  so  must be ok 


   
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13/05/2018 5:35 am  

Hello,

Please take a look at that:

http://online.flipbuilder.com/mpdm/ecpx/mobile/index.html#p=93

Like I said, the quality of your first figure - man with monkey is good, it is nicely done.

But unfortunately the fisherman is just not authentic - the detail is very poor and it also puts in question its age.

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13/05/2018 6:24 am  

Thanks Adrian very informative catalogue.

Mark


   
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Topic starter 13/05/2018 7:27 am  

Yes  i agree fab book good quality

monkey trainer  i found out 


   
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13/05/2018 7:43 am  
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Yes  i agree fab book good quality

monkey trainer  i found out 

I have the same Miller's 🙂

Very good buy!

 

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