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Hi,
I know I am spamming a bit, but there are some very nice pieces in these sales and these items come from good dealers, so I hope some of you may be interested and as the boards are quiet it gives people something to look at. 😊
This first one was bought from Bidamount, it was described as Han dynasty but the auction seems to prefer to hedge that.
https://auction.michaans.com/online-auctions/michaans/chinese-han-dynasty-style-bronze-ding-8434221
This large jar she bought from Mathew Page at Brian Page Antiques:
The plate below is from the "Shangrila guys" aka Cermics and Collectibles:
This 13 inch Tang dynasty vase is also from Brian Page Antiques:
There also a couple of famille rose items in this sale that were Charlottes, I won't post them here but the lot numbers are 5180 and 5181.
I hope you will all forgive me if tomorrow, I make one last post about the sale on Saturday as there are some good lots at such tempting estimates, which as I can't buy because of shipping, I would like to share in the hope that one or some of my friends on here may be tempted.
Thanks for looking!
@julia Hi Julia,
Did you know if Charlotte had other items in the sales this week? I picked up this Japanese dish that was mixed in with the items you mentioned and was wondering if you knew if it was hers or not.
Thank you!
Steve
@julia Can you believe the censer passed? As did the four blue and white dishes (mostly Ming) and the Tang vase. People? You know what Peter always says about unsold items!
I bid on the Satsuma plate with the figures and won on the opening bid! Also: the Arita chargers. Wow. I'm ready to open a store now! I also won an enormous faux-Kangxi blue and white gu vase - new, probably, but very, very pretty.
Michaans often didn't include photos of the footrims (tisk! tisk!); I don't think I'd consign with them if I could help it.
Who got the Kutani vase? Anyone here?
I have personally purchased numerous items post auction at very good prices. But it's been a couple of years since I have done this as most of the time the items that interest me have sold at auction.
Of course one needs to be vigilant as many items are fake or have serious condition issues.
Mark
@shinigami When you know it's a good item but it passed at the auction for some reason you can contact the auction house and see if it's still for sale and make an offer. Sometimes my offers are rejected but sometimes accepted. Peter says that sometimes the seller is dealing with an estate and they would prefer to just sell as much as possible.
The three German auction houses I bought from post auction didn't accept offers. I asked but they made it rather clear that they don't give any discounts. You always have to pay the starting price from the auction plus the fees.
Birgit
Oh that's interesting. I haven't encountered that scenario before.
All the auction I have encountered post auction have always been open to reasonable offers. It really depends on the vendor as to how much they are prepared to lower the reserve.
Once a item fails to sell at auction it becomes dead stock.
Mark
@shinigami That could be common practice in Germany.
I inquired to Michaans about the pair of bamboo brush pots and made an offer but it was too low and the counter-offered but I declined.
One auction house on Long Island, once the auction was over, put all the unsold items on sale but at much more than the opening bid. No thank you!
Hi Mark,
You're a professional so you might be able to answer this question. Why would an auction house put the reserves higher than the opening bid? It's seems ridiculous to have bidders vying for an item only to see it marked as "unsold" when the item closes. Seems to me to be rude to the customers. Don't open the bidding with an amount you won't accept!
Yes I agree with you that the opening bid should be close to the reserve. But it's no guarantee.
They do that to generate interest. Sometimes it works other times it does not.
It happened to me recently when I was trying to buy a gents Patek Philippe quartz watch which had a start price of $8000 but the reserve was $12000. Its still for sale!
Most of the time the start price is a indicator of a low reserve but unfortunately not always and generally you won't know until the end of the auction unless of course you ask them beforehand and they may in a round about way indicate the reserve to you but not obliged to. More so if you are known to the auction house.
Auction house are there to sell and make commissions and not to test the market place. You generally won't see this practice with lower end or average items but can see it sometimes with highly desirable items such as gold. If the item is a very sought after item then the auction house may list it low with a high reserve simply because it's a sought after item and will generate a lot of interest. They would generally not do this type of practice with average mundane stuff.
It can be frustrating.
Mark
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