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@julia I have done my best to get the best photos possible. If these don't work, I don't think I can do any better. JT
I’m a little late to the party. A wise artist once told me a artist will always mess up a very good painting in the last 10 minutes. It was a metaphor for sometimes a artist can’t let go of a piece he falls in love with and keeps thinking it’s never finished. Only an experienced artist knows when to stop at the prefect moment when the artwork is perfectly balanced. I think you bowl is Kangxi. But sometimes photos work against your claim trying a different camera might help. I would shoot some pictures off to Sotheby’s
Much better photos, thank you. Those colours no longer look as shiny and it is good to get a better view of the shape. I don't see it as Kangxi, but would agree with Mark that a Guangxu date seems likely.
A Kangxi chrysanthemum would look like this. There’s not just a small red rim around each petal and the green leaves are less translucent
Birgit
I think there are variations of the way chrysanthemums are depicted during the period but I find Jamie's are much more a late 19th c "revival" style. The Kangxi pieces are also much whiter. Here are some more:
http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2019/12/07/37847221.html
http://alaintruong.canalblog.com/archives/2016/06/20/33990990.html
I think the camera is affecting the whiteness looks a little contrast to me. The one thing I have noticed is the bowl looks thick to me but might be camera angle. A good long distance picture on a shelf might help. I have issues with late Qing in my thoughts they would have been itching to put a mark on it. Painting seems little to good.
I don't know how useful this is, but I have just looked at the excellent photos in a book I have on Kangxi porcelain and can find no sign of the aubergine running or looking so messy. Nor could I see any flowers painted like those rather distinctive ones on the upper border on the inside.
I thought I would post a mirrored pair of famile verte bottle vases that are definitely 19th century and have similar decorations as your bowl. Contrast the sandy foot compared to the whiter looking paste of your bowl. My vases have no underglaze blue at all in the decorative design.
I have no idea why two of the photos got flipped on their side.
Dear Jamie,
perfect pictures now, we can see the real colors, the white balance has been rightly set, as undoubtedly shown by the white areas. The only wrong thing is that once again the pictures has been taken too much close to the bowl, and because of that there is a strong distortion of the shape, including the shapes of the painting. Pictures must be taken far from the object, and then cropped.
With these new pictures, I am widening the time frame; the bowl could be Guangxu, as said by Mark. So not earlier than late 19th C onward.
I would like to advice that not everything said here must be taken for granted. There are some wrong statements, but I am not willing to discuss them because it would be a long discussion and also unproductive for what I have seen.
Regards,
Giovanni
LOL! Who could Giovanni possibly be referring to?
Well, I called it 19th c. from the get go. Can’t all be misinformation.
I’m pretty sure it’s me. Lol
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