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i love Asian antiques but I know very little about them. I live in a rural area and do most my shopping at thrift stores, yard sales and local auctions. I have been making a little side money for 15 years selling stuff on eBay. I’ve always felt intimidated by Asian antiques. There is so much to learn. Honestly I don’t think many people in my area know much either so I may have a chance of getting a bargain on an unidentified piece. Mostly I collect and buy what I find interesting and I never pay much. Have several times found good Asian prints in thrift stores and sold for very good money. Now I’m looking to learn about Asian Pottery and porcelain. I love monochromes. How did you learn most of what you know.
Tyra
I want to welcome Tyra 310 , most of us are still learning you want to go all peter combs videos he has good ones and sites like this
I tend to do and say things very different than other people, So this is what I would do and am doing, but it's not for all
First I do not believe even for a moment that 99% of all porcelains are fake, like some want you to believe
China has been making and shipping porcelains out of their country for hundreds of years, millions and millions of pieces, one sunken boat alone had 60,000 pieces found and there have been many sunken boats
Chinese porcelains have been in many homes for years and years, in their attics, basements etc... and in many countries
Every yard sale, Estate sale, Swapmeet across this country has a chance to see a few
And now with ebay opening to every country and coming right into your homes, there are even much more pieces, yes more fakes and more real ones as well
And there has never been a better time than now to buy porcelains when everyone is thinking they are all fakes
Here is my advise... Go buy a few at yardsales, they are cheap and then consider them real, then start your study one piece at a time, looking for reign marks, color, style and learn all you can on this piece, let`s say it looks like a Kangxi piece because it has a kangxi mark, ok then look up kangxi other pieces and compare it closely, learn the color the pattern and the foot, keeping in mind that you are looking now for anything that could make it fake, you will learn so much this way and it will not cost you a lot for your education
Of course do also what others have mentioned, musuems, etc... youtube videos
I started learning one dynasty first the Tang dynasty and it`s color, then I went to the Song dynasty, I learned it`s style and the 5 major kilns, the colors and when I felt comfortable I then went and learned the Yuan dynasty style, colors etc, one dynasty at a time
Just like learning your ABC`s its a building block and necessary
I found a vase at an estate sale, I did not know what it was but it looked nice to me, I took it home and started looking online for vases that looked like it, soon I found the style was from the Yuan dynasty ok then I looked at all Yuan dynasty vases and found a few like this one, I noticed that most of the Yuan vases had the same kind of motiff near the bottom, I was on the right track
I was watching some porcelain videos and in the british museum they were showing a vase and I thought Wow that one looks like mine and they named it, it had a story painted on the vase, I looked up the story and found that was exactly what was on mine
Ok so now I got the dynasty, the style and now I wanted to learn about the color or cobalt or was it cobalt, so I looked at many and read all about Yuan cobalt and found what I needed, I learned about Heap and piling and how it would run, I learned how some dynasties would mix the imported cobalt to stop it from running etc...
So all a long I am looking for reasons to prove it fake, and learning as I go all from a cheap vase, and not just excepting others opinion as truth, Now as I go to swapmeets, yardsales etc... I will know a Yaun piece when I see it
That`s only one vase, it was so fun to learn this way for me and did not cost too much to learn
Now if I would have said well that vase is probably fake then I would not have bought it and I would have learned nothing
So learn one vase at a time and learn like an expert on that vase until you truly understand it - then move on
This is what I do, it`s not for everyone but it works for me perfectly because I will never take someone`s word that it is real - I will know
richard severson
I agree with what's been already mentioned above; take learning and life one step at a time and remember to enjoy the journey. - Best of Luck!
You think exactly like me. If something looks good, has the right feel, and is cheap. I buy it and like you then research the heck out of it. If it’s a fake I didn’t spend much. If it’s a good piece, woo hoo. Thanks for your advise. I feel comfortable continuing my exploration and education.
Tyra
Hello Tyra310, and welcome! Learning about Asian and Chinese antiques is the same as any other endeavor of this kind. So do not let it intimidate you. I would suggest you not only learn about the objects through identification, but to also learn about (for example) China's cultural history. Learning the context of where, when and why certain objects were made, will make it much easier and much more fun.
If you can, pick up a copy of Charles Hucker's terrific book "China's Imperial Past", also anything by Jonathan Spence, his book "Emporer of China, A Self Portrait" is also a great! Read. Both of these books are I think listed below the forum through AMAZON. Not expensive and well worth the read and time.
Best, Peter
Peter
Thanks Peter. I found you on YouTube and love your videos. Have to watch them over and over. Thanks for the encouragement. I feel excited about learning new things.
Tyra
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