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I am no good at dating something like this. But I’ve definitely never seen one with his hand extended out in that pose. Kind of aggressive and scary! A powerful carving.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
That was a fast reply. And yes, a powerful carving. Apparently these can be very old. And it's fascinating how they are similar to Sancai tomb guardians of the Tang dynasty.
I found this site with some similar carvings. Some of them actually contemporary with the Tang dynasty. And also some examples with their hands extended in a similar pose ... https://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/nio.shtml
After doing some research it appears to me that if it was original it would date to the Kamakura/Muromachi period but that it is probably a later copy dating to the Edo/Meiji period but I'm not certain at all. It still fascinating object though. If anyone else here knows more about this subject they are very welcome to join in.
There is another wood guardian available that is stated to be of the Heian period and seems like it's likely authentic but there seems to be a lot interest about it so it will probably go pretty high. 112 cm. tall and not fully intact but still nice.
Hi Corey,
Virtually impossible to answer you question how old. Great photo's very dramatically lit, you could call them art photo's. But not much help in establishing authenticity. They could be theater or movie props. The very interesting link you provided has some very well carved items for sale unpainted for about a thousand bucks. No doubt if painted by an artist and professionally photographed they could look old.
Would need to know more background information do they have a history any provenance. Doubt if figures like that could just pop up out of nowhere, if whoever is offering them has not provided any details of their history I would be very skeptical.
Michael
How is the seller or auctioneer describing the item?
The first one is stated to be a period piece but no further dating is given. It is said to be a 'nio' and from a temple collection but it doesn't say which temple. No further provenance is mentioned.
The second is stated to be of the Heian period. It is said to be a 'bishamonten' . No provenance is mentioned. I have purchased one (Chinese) object from the same source which is definitely authentic and potentially a very valuable. No provenance was mentioned for that one either.
Based on the quality of the carving and workmanship I would tend to believe your piece is 19th century late Edo or Meiji. If older I would expect more wear.
George
All,
I see that from the link provided by Corey they have now sold out on some of the new carvings.
Michael
http://www.buddhist-artwork.com/html/nio-statues.html
The first one sold for only $400 so it would probably have been a good buy if it dates to the Edo-Meiji period. If so it could probably carry a $2000 - $3000 estimate at Bonhams although chances are that it won't sell. Personally I find this sculpture very fascinating, dramatic and attractive.
The second sculpture dating to the Heian period is up $2000 so far. I can't wait to see how high it will go in the end. It's possibly still highly desireble (and valuable) even if it's not fully intact. These Japanese wood carvings are definitely something I'll look into in the future.
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