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I'm encountering a lot of interesting looking Japanese ceramics these days and although I don't really collect them at the moment I probably will in the future and the pieces that are available at the moment are simply to nice to just letting pass by.
For example this Nabeshima plate that I have the opportunity to buy and that to look like it could be an early one dating to around the 1700 and if that's the case it's potentially quite valuable.
These have been copied later but for comparison there is an example sold by Christie's as a part of a larger collection dating to the 19/20th ct. https://onlineonly.christies.com/s/refined-beauty-japanese-art-edo-period/study-collection-thirty-nabeshima-dishes-related-wares-various-designs-68/18672
This Kakiemon plate is also available and I find it really attractive with its feminine shape and colors combined with the masculine motive of dragons and a phoenix. It's of course the really early pieces that are valuable and this one looks to me as it could possibly be an early one dating to around the 1700 but I haven't researched it much. It is described as Edo period by the source.
I also like this Kutani bottle because of its shape and colors but it's probably not an early one and therefore probably not so valuable. If anyone can date date this one they are very welcome to join in.
Then there is this one. With its colors and decoration it reminds me of late Ming Kinrande so I wonder if it's actually Chinese rather than Japanese. It's not specified in the listing by the source.
If they’re being sold in Japan on eBay, or other such avenues: ask yourself the likelihood of a Qianlong mark and period piece leaving China on the same platform - those will be your equivalent odds in layman’s speak without having to reach one of the few specialists alive (and pay them) for a comparable answer.
Best,
-JRN
This 32 high jar also looks good. With its shape and colors it also remind me of late Ming/early Qing polychrome ware but it's stated to be Imari/Arita kiln by the source. No dating is given.
@ JRN. Do you think they are fakes? They are being sold in Japan.
There is this similarly shaped vase listed on ebay by a seller whom we have discussed before. (They generally do a good job describing Japanese items. Their Chinese items tend to be less than impressive). It is listed at pre-1800, with some condition issues.
Todd
take it with a grain of salt
Hi Corey,
Yes there are comparatively money wise what you might call bargains to be found in Japanese antique ceramics however the same extreme caution needs to be taken as you should with Chinese antiques. I can never work out why if you have a genuine item from say the 17thc why you would use some obscure auction house to sell it. The examples you have supplied all look to be wonderful things from the photo's but i get that to good to be true voice in my head. Good luck with your searching you always come up with very interesting things for us to look at and consider.
Michael
@ Watership, Thanks for the link. Yes, I know that seller, I've bought a few pieces from him before. But the double gourd vase linked to is imari so perhaps not the best for comparison even though I would also guess that the one I posted dates to the 19th ct. For comparison and potential value I've just come across this one also described as Kutani available at a French dealer. https://www.proantic.com/en/display.php?mode=obj&id=626380
@ Brettm. I'm also worried about fakes and Japan has a production of copies going on but there are a lot of Japanese antiques available that I can see are authentic some some of them potentially much more valuable than the prices they are being sold for. And during the past five years or so I've purchased many authentic Chinese pieces from Japanese sellers myself but also many fakes unfortunately.
This 32 high jar also looks good. With its shape and colors it also remind me of late Ming/early Qing polychrome ware but it's stated to be Imari/Arita kiln by the source. No dating is given.
No date given on this jar because the seller knows its brand new!
Mark
Do you think it's brand new. I was actually considering that jar because of the mystery surrounding it. It looks Chinese but but is possibly an early Japanese production made in Chinese style. Just like the Kinrande square vase is made in Japanese style. I researched that one and I'm quite certain it's Chinese late Ming and to me it looks authentic. Is that one also new? It's available from the same source as the jar. Can anyone identify/translate the mark?
Hi Avatar,
Most certainly this jar is brand new! The iron red looks like someone spayed it on. The design is stiff, sloppy and looks drawn rather than painted. There is absolutely no wear at all, especially where it should be if it was indeed old etc. The clincher is the partial image depicting the interior. It's clearly not scooped by hand but by machine.
If this is an example of items available via this Japanese site I would be very wary.
BTW where are you located Avatar? If I may ask.
Mark
You asked me before where I'm located and I'm still living in Copenhagen, Denmark. But all the items posted here are available from the same Japanese seller. It's only the Kakiemon plate that is available from a different source.
The seller with the jar and the other stuff also have another jar for sale described as Imari/arita kiln but it's actually also a Kakiemon jar. I researched it and found a near identical early Kakiemon jar in a Japanese museum but there are slight differences in the design so I've been wondering if it's actually a later copy. Now I don't wanna post it since I'm considering buying and don't want it to be declared fake. It has very nice warm colors and would make a good companion piece with the jar you say is fake. I must search around the web to do more comparisons regarding authenticity. But the potential value for such a piece would probably be around $15,000 - $25,000 or more if sold on an good auction. It could be less also.
That might sound a little too good to be true but I've seen many very nice and potentially very valuable early Kakiemon pieces sold for relatively low prices in Japan that to me looked authentic even though I haven't really reasearched them in depth. For example this early Kakiemon elephant that was sold for only $3000 by the same source as the Kakiemon plate shown here. The potential value for such a thing would probably be around the $50,000 at a good auction unless it should turn out to be fake of course ...
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