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Also, the bulbous area doesn’t bother me. Bonhams sold a “Very rare wucai dragon vase.” Christie’s sold a “wucai Gu form dragon vase“ in Sept 2019 from the Art Institute of Chicago. And, “carved green jade archaistic beaker vase and matching gilt bronze beaker vase.” There were others, as well with the bulbous center labelled archaistic or baluster and even as early as Ming. Still doesn’t help with the glaze.
Searching in the book „Chinese Glazes“ I found nothing comparable. There’s but a weak similarity to the 18th century blue Robin‘s egg glaze. In my opinion the bottom is 20th century and the glaze one of many fancy products of late Republic or early PROC.
Birgit
Why don't you ask Peter? Or send photos to one of the major auction houses? If you do, please let us know what they say: I am intrigued!
I have had the same feet on a few vases from late 19th C (or possibly early 20th as Shinigami suggests). May send photos, but don’t yet want to pay for an evaluation, especially if it’s worth $50.:) Thanks for everyone’s thoughts. I have seen some bulbous Gu forms from elite auction houses listed from the Ming and Qing periods. By the way, it’s 13 1/8” tall and the porcelain is nice and white, as can be seen through the lamp hole.
I will try to describe the glaze. After the crackle glaze and possibly a mauve application (Seen on the inside and base), it looks like in the final stage, dark spots of random size were sprinkled around the vase and when the glaze was applied it went around those spots pooling a little bit above and around the spots. The spots must be an oily substance to which the glaze would not adhere. That’s about the best I can do.
If anyone would like to see a similar shape with the bulbous middle said to be from the Qing dynasty, you could google Chinese Green Porcelain Beaker Vase Qing Dynasty. Of course, it doesn’t mean that one is correctly labeled, either.
The little lines on the foot rim are like those on picture 72 if BidAmount’s Ming Dynasty and Transitional Period Chinese Porcelains with Feet. Barely visible on the rim of photo 81. Thoughts? By the way, I still haven’t found the glaze and will let you know if I do.
Found it. Can you believe it? Search Pair Antique Peach-Bloom Meiping Vases. Sold by Chait and found on the-saleroom.com. Mine has dark spots the glaze avoids and this pair has white spots the glaze goes around it looks like. Unfortunately I can’t see the age or the sold price. Thanks for everyone’s help. Can you believe Peach Bloom? Although the glaze under the green would be considered Peach Bloom.
Congrats on finding an example "mottled apple green, unripened fruit," why did we not think of that? Their use of the word "probably" is worrying and I do not understand peach bloom in reference, but your determination in seeking an example is admirable and I hope it leads to more answers. Sharon
You must be very pleased! It is lovely when persistence pays off. I would not have thought of peach bloom, but now having just looked at many examples and read an article on modern research into the glaze, it makes sense that this colour-way may have derived from that process.
Hello,
first at all, the shape of your vase is well known and it is called “Gu”.
I do not know if this glaze has a special name, probably not, it may be part of a family of glazes, like the flambé glazes which can have many different colors and looking, but for sure it is not peachbloom glaze.
The description of that couple of vases on The Saleroom is totally wrong; those vases are not meiping, they have a baluster shape, they are not peachbloom glazed and are not Kangxi.
Your Gu vase is a strange one, it could be 19th century but I can’t say for sure, I have never seen a similar glaze.
Regards
Giovanni
@clayandbrush Hey Giovanni, I am not sure if the color compares to the Gu vase we are talking about here but I found this
referenced as a Kangxi moon flask that has a similar tone of color. It reminds me of the Sancai Glazes of the Tangs but I think it is indeed a Flambe Glases. I hope this may help
The Sancai Glaze is not like mine. If you go to invaluable and try to find “A Chinese Peach Bloom Glazed Meiping Vase Quanling Seal Mark” Lot 8091A of Theodore Bruce auction, Leichhardt Australia, that’s the closest to my vase. On mine the green starts at the top, on that one the same glaze starts at the center and Peach Bloom is the top half. The vase on the left of this picture is similar at the bottom to mine. Manhattan Art and Antiques Center called these “Pair of Gu Shaped Peach Bloom Glazed Vases.” I found a number more that people call peach bloom even though the green is on top of the peach bloom. But, of course, I’m looking for other names. Giovanni, there are a number of similar vases online, but most of them are the red glaze with green highlights. I found three Peach Bloom apple looking vases or brush pots and even though the main color was reddish, the green highlights were the same as mine. If you find the first vase I mentioned at the top, would you give me your thoughts?
Dear Siseno,
it doesn’t help😊. The glaze that you have shown is a well known one, mainly seen on Kangxi period ware, and which name is “Egg and spinach”. It is also known as “Tiger skin pattern”. Directly applied on the biscuit.
I was not saying that the glaze on the vase in question is flambé, I have just mentioned it as an example of a group of glazes.
Sancai glaze is a lead-based glaze, another completely different type of glazes.
Dear Centralpottery, if I may give you a suggestion, stop to follow the peachbloom glaze path. It is a completely different thing. That is a copper glaze that is reduced do red, in a manner that the reduction is not complete. It is purposely aimed to get different results on each piece. The spotted look of peachbloom glaze is due to the fact that the switching of the color is not complete, and hence randomly looking different on the whole are.
Instead, the glaze on your vase is purposely made in a way to look spotted. And you do not have a peachbloom glaze completely green like on your vase, the dominant color is pinkish-reddish with spots of green.
Regards,
Giovanni
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