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Galerie Zacke is selling fake again
I have been collecting wooden items for a long time. Each time I check their Zitan items, it's a clear fake. Now it comes again. I am not porcelain expert so can't tell if they are any fake porcelains. But regardless, I don't understand why bidamount keeps recommending Galerie Zacke in various places.
You still seem to bear a grudge against Galerie Zacke. Have you told Peter Combs about your experience? I don't think he has time to read in this forum.
@shinigami yes I did. I did two times. First time private email - no response. Second time I left a comment in the youtube video, then it's deleted without any reasons 🙂 The two steps are all per forum members' recommendations.
I appreciate the persistence, although I feel most of us here on the forum have seen the previous warnings. Peter hasn't been able to respond to many emails lately because of some health issues. I'll separately say that I've pointed out an obvious fake "Hong" bowl to GZ and they said they would change it since it was produced in the 90's, and it still says "Late Qing". It's pretty funny that they still compare it to the real Hong bowls that sold for tens of thousands:
But I think we're beating a dead horse here, Ziliang.
Didn't someone suggest trying to contact the Association of Auctioneers or whatever it might be called? I feel you won't get anywhere unless the majority of their items are fakes. The argument is always that the description is their opinion and they may be wrong on some items. In other words, it is "buyer beware."
I know it is so frustrating, especially when it is a big name making these errors, but really there is little that can be done except complain and to keep doing that when you are getting nowhere, can take it's toll on you.
At the end of the day, it is other people who have to decide whether or not to bid with Zacke. Have you left a warning on the auction score card system that is on the Bidamount main page? If so, I'm afraid you may have to tell yourself you have done what you can for the time being.
@bartholin Yes, they always compare their items with old and valuable pieces that look different. That’s not respectable in my opinion. Also they sell a mix of authentic and very doubtful items.
I was the one who advices to post a comment on bidamount's youtube video and I personally I find it problematic if Peter has deleted the comment like you say.
BTW In one of my searches I came across this. A collection of mainly fake archaic jades of the same kind that have been sold by Zacke and now exhibited at renowned museums like Bauer Foundation, Geneva and Asian Art Museum of Nice.
I appreciate the persistence, although I feel most of us here on the forum have seen the previous warnings. Peter hasn't been able to respond to many emails lately because of some health issues.
Didn't someone suggest trying to contact the Association of Auctioneers or whatever it might be called? I feel you won't get anywhere unless the majority of their items are fakes.
hi Julia - that's the point. I can't really tell but for zitan items I am pretty sure majorities are fakes. I can't tell other items since I am not expert. So I am really really curious - are majority of the other items fakes as well???
I've been buying via online auctions for a while. I am pretty sure that a nice auction house doesn't sell things so often and so many a time of the same categories - simply there are not so many nice and genuine antiques there. It takes time to collect and organize into different classes for a sell. Galerie Zacke sells fairly often and each time many great items. Those porcelains do appear antique to me and all very nice items.
Dealers have told me to be careful as their porcelain is as mixed as the other things.
I concur with Birgit post. A few old school dealer's have warned me to be very careful with said auction house. That being noted, I am very cautious about any auction house with the exception of the big three.
It's unfortunately a common problem. Here on Australia we have a few auction houses that sell mainly fakes. But in between these fakes I have had the opportunity to purchase a few genuine pieces.
I have personally never bought anything from GZ. With the buyers premium and international shipping along with a substantially lower Australian dollar makes buying from them or any international auction house very difficult. But on the flip side I have sold a couple of Japanese inros to them recently with no problems at all.
The wooden figure posted is described as late Qing early republic and Zitan wood. The quality of the carving is very high with a very unusually carved base. Whether or not it is Zitan wood is very difficult to determine by way of the images from GZ. It would need to be examined in person.
@imperialfinegems it's colored, machine made item - with final hand polish.
look nice? the same type garbage...
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