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EU GPSR Regulation for Selling Antiques on eBay: Challenges and Compliance

 
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Topic starter 08/12/2024 5:39 am  

Hello everyone,

I wanted to share my thoughts and seek advice regarding the upcoming EU General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR), effective from 13th December 2024, and how it affects selling antiques, particularly Chinese antiques, on platforms like eBay.

The Challenge:

As many of you know, the EU has introduced stricter rules to ensure product safety. While it primarily targets modern products, there seems to be confusion about how this applies to antiques and collectibles. Specifically:

1. Import Taxes:
EU buyers already face significant import taxes and VAT, making it less appealing for them to purchase from non-EU sellers like me. This new regulation could exacerbate the problem if sellers are unsure how to comply.

2. Product Safety Requirements:
The GPSR emphasizes that any item sold to EU customers must comply with safety regulations. Does this apply to every antique piece sold, even if it’s a 200-year-old porcelain vase? It’s unclear if the law differentiates between collectibles and functional items (e.g., modern ceramics for food use).

3. Listing Requirements:
eBay sellers may now need to include additional information in listings to satisfy the GPSR, such as safety details or disclaimers. However, what information is required for antiques? Many of these items were not made with modern safety standards in mind, and the regulations seem impractical for one-of-a-kind vintage pieces.

The Options:

For sellers like me, this raises a crucial question: Do we continue selling to EU buyers or pause sales until there’s more clarity?

My Experience:

I’ve noticed that EU buyers are increasingly discouraged by high import taxes. Some sales have fallen through because buyers didn’t want to pay these fees.

Now, with GPSR, I’m concerned about whether it’s feasible to sell to the EU. The ambiguity about product safety compliance for antiques makes it challenging to list items confidently.

Stopping EU sales temporarily might be an option, but it would significantly reduce my customer base.

Key Questions:

1. Does GPSR apply to each product individually, or are there exceptions for antiques and collectibles?

2. How do we comply with the GPSR while selling on eBay?

3. Is anyone else considering ceasing EU sales until this is resolved?

Final Thoughts:

The idea of navigating high import taxes and safety regulations for items that are inherently "unsafe" by modern standards seems overwhelming. This combination of policies could make it impractical to sell Chinese antiques to EU customers unless there are clear exemptions for antiques and collectibles.

I’d love to hear how others are approaching this. Are you adapting to the new regulations, or are you pausing sales to the EU? Any advice or insights on how to fill out eBay listings under the new GPSR rules would be much appreciated.

Let’s figure this out together!

Best regards,
Oto Bosza


   
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08/12/2024 7:33 am  

Hi i think the Elephant in the room are the high impot taxes ..same with China they pay up to 17 percent ,the new safety rules hmm dont think its a big problem they not gonna be so fussy about that when it comes to antiques ...so dont panic . best regrds from Switzerland (outside of the EU 😉 )


   
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08/12/2024 8:43 am  

Being located in the EU I rarely buy from outside. The problem is not the added VAT or the import tax for more expensive items, I can calculate this before and decide if it's worth it. But I have to retrieve my parcel directly from the customs office where I usually spent an hour or two waiting. Sometimes DHL or Fedex do the import paperwork without even asking and then take a hefty fee for it. In one case an imported item (happily just a book worth a few €) got stuck in the main customs office in Frankfurt and was sent back to the seller some weeks later.

When buying from overseas I never know what will happen this time and how much I will have to pay on top. It seems to have gotten worse in the last years. I don't think the new rules you mention will have great impact on private sales. It's more the points mentioned above that may keep people from buying outside the EU. China is an exception, never had the slightest problem with Aliexpress. 

 

Birgit


   
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08/12/2024 9:48 am  

@shinigami I fully agree i have almost 0 customers from Germany anymore , they complain about the Pickup system customer from germany  only on small things like postcards , i remember my last expensive ebay goods i purchased was a Large book from Ireland 8 KG weight Value 800 dollars ..the seller  declared it voluntarily with 20 Euros and it passed customs they must have thought its a phonebook but that was back in 2012 i know today...dont buy expensive goods from abroad anymore

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08/12/2024 12:38 pm  

I have not yet had a problem in France with importing items but I know others who have. However, I rarely buy from outside Europe due to shipping costs and/or taxes. 

I was sent some information about these kind of regulations recently and was left with the impression that antique items are not targeted by them. If I can find it, I will post it here. It may be a few days though, as we have visitors.


   
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