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Topic starter 17/05/2023 11:12 am  

Hi all, 

Dreweatts’s, one of the better UK provincial auction houses, held there first, of two, Asian sales today … 

The first 87 lots from an old English collection, put together between 1930/60’s, many of which were acquired from/through Bluetts, one of the great 20thC London Chinese/Asian art dealers. A number of pieces had provenances that were traced back the 1920’s … 

Some wonderful pieces, all with  very low estimates which, unsurprisingly, were exceeded, by 10-20 times estimates … 

I viewed the sale yesterday, attach images of two personal favourites. I did leave a bid on the Northern Song meiping, but was ‘no where near’!!! … 

(Please excuse my ‘hastily written notes’) … 

Stuart 

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17/05/2023 1:13 pm  

Did they date it to the Ming dynasty rather than the Song dynasty? There are a couple of related jars sold at Sotheby's

 

https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2015/song-ceramics-yang-de-tang-collection-n09338/lot.64.html

 

https://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2016/important-chinese-art-l16210/lot.206.html

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17/05/2023 1:16 pm  

And a  pair at Christie's.

 

http://www.alaintruong.com/archives/2020/01/02/37908955.html


   
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Topic starter 17/05/2023 3:03 pm  

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Hi Cory and all - 

The catalogue entry, 9th image, shows the attributed dating given for Lot 34 ...

The Xuande inscribed closenn'e box/cover, estimate £6,000-10,000, sold for £230,000 hammer ...

Stuart 

 


   
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22/05/2023 1:14 am  

what do you think of lot 32:

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It says late ming, but seems Kangxi to me. What do you think?

 


   
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Topic starter 22/05/2023 3:13 am  

@ahgu 

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The general consensus, amongst others who also saw/handled, was not late Ming but Qing and probably 18th century ...

Stuart 


   
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22/05/2023 3:17 pm  

@ming1449 Would you share your opinion on the realized price, about 3K gbp for 18th century censer?


   
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Topic starter 23/05/2023 7:44 am  
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Hi - 

Attached image of my ‘scribbled’ notes when handling this piece and discussing with others …

The damage and ‘feel’ when held may, perhaps, be reasons for the price this piece realised - but just a personal opinion on such … 

Stuart 


   
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23/05/2023 12:09 pm  

@ming1449 I never held it, only saw pictures. Do you mean it feels light in hand? I like the green color. 


   
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23/05/2023 12:30 pm  

@ming1449 can you please share your notes on Lot 3. Han Bronze flask. Thank you. 

 


   
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Attached image of my notes on Lot 3 …

Nice piece, with beautiful patina and tremendous history … 

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24/05/2023 9:53 am  

@ming1449 Please elaborate on the "not the best feel in hand. underwhelming. " Does the weight Feel light?

 


   
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Topic starter 25/05/2023 5:37 am  

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Trying to 'described in words' how an object 'feels when held' is rather difficult and, ultimately, rather meaningless - my notes only record expressions, both initial and subsequent discussions with others, after they have also seen/handled ...

Weight can be an important indicator either to heavy/light - usually but not always a warning sign, or right/as expected - but this is just one, of several aspects, that needs considering ...

Some objects possess a beautiful, yet subtle, tactile feel when held, you instantly know its a very high quality piece, others range anywhere between 'good/nice, average/OK, not so good/nice ext, ext ...

This 'feel' depends on numerous aspects, including shape, proportions, modelling/trimming/finishing, glaze formula, firing conditions and how these, and others, effect the final outcome when  completed ...

This 'expression" only comes after one has handled numerous pieces ... 

Stuart 


   
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