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@shingami -
Hi Birgit and all -
Attached images of Dragon paired with Phoenix motifs, Yuan dynasty to 18th C Jiaqing periods ...
Two large octagonal vases, Yuan dynasty, decorated with four lightly carved and incised white four-clawed dragons reserved against blue waves, the shoulder with separate Huang/Feng type phoenixes and two Qilins amongst lotus scrolls, each framed within cloud collars. Both excavated from a hoard at South Yonghua road in Baoding, Baoding Province in 1964 - images 1/2 ...
Large flask, Yuan dynasty, with two three-clawed dragons chasing a flaming pearl and a pair of Luan type phoenixes amongst chrysanthemums scrolls, Idemitsu Museum of Arts, Japan - image 3 ...
Two ten-petalled mallow shaped brush washers, both with five-clawed dragons, the first unmarked with Feng type in the Gugong, Beijing and the second, Xuande six character m/p, with a rare Huang (female) type phoenix, NPM, Taipei - images 4/5 ...
A large dish, Zhengtong period - 1436/49 - with five clawed dragon and Feng type. Note the central motif has been reversed, and both dragon and phoenix exhibit some differing design elements within there overall execution. This is the only know/published example from this period, and is exceptional rare. Somewhat damaged, it was sold at auction in November 2019, £100,000 - image 6 ...
Chenghua m/p dish with five-clawed dragon paired with, possibly, a Luan type phoenix, a very rare combination on Imperial Ming wares. Most Chenghua dragon/phoenix pieces are drawn with the Feng type. Private HK collection - image 7 ...
Small bowl with four-clawed dragon/Feng type in wucai palette, Jiajing six-character m/p. The painting style and decoration on this piece is extremely rare in the Jiajing period, and this bowl may be unique. Ex Meiyintang Coll, Lot 30, sold Sothebys HK 4 April 2012, HK$1,460,000 - images 8/9 ...
A b/w jar with pairs of five-clawed dragons/Feng types amongst clouds, Wanli six-character m/p. Private HK collection - images 10/11 ...
Small b/w cup/cover with three-clawed dragon/Feng type, Gugong Beijing, and a wucai dish, beautiful decorated with five-clawed dragons/Feng type amongst peony scrolls, sold Lot 41, Sothebys London 15 May 2019, £17,000, both Kangxi six-character m/p - images 12/13 ...
A pair of extremely rare wucai bowls, again beautiful decorated with five-clawed dragons/Feng type amongst lotus scrolls, Yongzheng six-character m/p, sold Lot 260, Sothebys New York 13/14 September 2016, $874,000 - images 14/15 ...
A large ‘Famile Rose’ jar/cover, very finely decorated with a five-clawed dragon/Feng type phoenix amongst peony scrolls, Jiaqing six-character m/p, sold Lot 103, Sothebys London 7 November 2012 - images 16/17 and 18 (catalogue description) ...
Enjoy ...
Stuart
Stunning examples of dragon and Phoenix. Thank you for posting.
Mark
Thank you so much for your trouble, Stuart. A most interesting gallery of high quality dragon and phoenix. These are the pieces that the average collector can only dream of.
Birgit
Stuart that is amazing, thank you so much!
May I please ask about that phoenix vase I purchased a while back. I will find a photo as I doubt it is still on the site. I didn't know what the creatures on it were but you and Giovanni said they were a rare form of phoenix. Looking at their tails, are they the Huang style?
This bowl was also posted by you for comparison. I will put it in because it seems to fit the thread and may be useful to someone.
Julia
Hi Julia -
My pleasure to post ...
I tried to include only rare and/or exceptional examples of type, the painting style, skill and execution of which begins to exhibit tremendous variations from the Jiajing, post 1522 until the mid Kangxi, pre 1680’s periods ...
Yes I remember this vase, a really lovely example, with this rare phoenix type depiction ...
As mentioned to Birgit in the ‘Phoenix types’ thread, I really have not studied these Qing types in any depth ...
However, although some would imply the tail depicted appears to be a some form of ‘foliated type’, therefor inspired by/a continuation of that seen on the ‘kui’ type dragon, personally I would agree with you and say that this phoenix is a Huang (female) type ...
Stuart
Thanks, Stuart. I really appreciate you sharing your insight and expertise.
Once again Steward thanks for the lesson. If I can recall and use 10% of the information put forth by the members of this forum I would consider myself a smart man. Thank you to all.
Hi Mark - A pleasure to post/share with all on the forum!🙂 ...
Hi Birgit - Indeed, some 'dreams' are made of such!!😉😆...
@julia -
Hi Julia - once again, my pleasure to share!😊 ...
@ronm -
Hi Ronm - no 'lesson' intended, if indeed considered such!🤔 - as above, just a pleasure to share with all here!😊 ...
I would have given you all a '👍like' but, although it seems I can do such on others posts, still no access to on my mine?!🙄...
Stuart
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