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We had an auction in canada today with a few things selling well.Two jade sold for over 30k and a few snuff bottles did well. I placed a few bids myself but only won one lot. They had a very nice ivory stale (lot 136) but unfortunately it went a bit over my budget. I I think the prices were reasonable for the most part. I would recommend future buyers the be very careful however, their experts aren't the most knowledgeable from my experience.
https://www.waddingtons.ca/auction/asian-art-dec-05-2019/gallery/
The two lots being the white jade plaques sold for a extraordinary price imo. Overall they appear to have achieved really good prices for a majority of their lots etc.
Don't know this auction house by way of any purchasing but I have heard of them.
Mark
I forgot to add.... All prices are in canadian dollar (roughly 75% value of USD). Prices looks much better that way!
Out of interest which item did you end up buying?
Mark
I bought this plaque:
https://www.waddingtons.ca/auction/asian-art-dec-05-2019/gallery/lot/161/
I also thought these this brush pot and stools were quite nice:
https://www.waddingtons.ca/auction/asian-art-dec-05-2019/gallery/lot/157/
https://www.waddingtons.ca/auction/asian-art-dec-05-2019/gallery/lot/162/
They also had this vase described as "republic" but I thought it was likely made later:
https://www.waddingtons.ca/auction/asian-art-dec-05-2019/gallery/lot/156/
@springmeir
You have bought a few very nice items there.
The plaque is beautifully decorated and a good size. Shame there is no seal mark.
The bitong is also nice and is made in the style/manner of Wang Qi.
The other vase that you had concerns about is warranted imo. It looks a little rough around the edges and probably dates to the PROC.
Mark
I also like the plaque and the brush pot looks nicely done, too.
I struggle to see the attraction of some Jades, though. I understand about particular artists, the pure skill and craftsmanship, also that some jade is "better" quality (something I really struggle with) or colour than others but I find it so hard to distinguish between what is good and what is less desirable in the carving.
For example, sometimes the carving is so soft and unclear that it reminds me a little of anhua decoration. Is that what makes them valuable: the softness and almost illusionary quality? On these two white pieces, unless I go quite close up, I struggle to see the carving (other than the shaped outer edges).
At our local auction a few months ago there was a piece that went very far over the estimate (it sold for £9000 I think). I just didn't understand why a piece with a "soft" carving was more valuable than one with clean clear lines to the easily visible decoration.
Am I making sense? Are collectors more interested in a piece where it seems the artists are revealing a design in the stone, rather than creating one themselves?
This is the carved boulder, about 4 ins high. I can see there is skill involved but from a distance, it looks like part of the pattern on the actual stone. I am beginning to feel that this is what matters and that I have been misunderstanding the whole concept: it is more important to create the sense of the artist drawing out what the artist believes is there, rather than impose a design on it.
Hi Julie,
The jade Boulder that you posted has a very sought after colours, hence the price.
It is in my opinion based just on one picture that it is probably a modern carving. Based on the price, it achieved a good to high price in my opinion. I would not have paid that much. 😂
If for instance one had the same size and style of carving in spinach green jade then the price would have been substantially lower. Say about $1500. If it had been a black jet color $5000+. If it was a mutton fat pure color then $9000+. If on the other hand it was a pure suger-white then it would be less than $1500. Why because it would probably have been Russian jade. Not that Russian jade is always less value. Take the collectable spinach green with traces of black, but normally fairly translucent. I posted a year or more ago a four panel jade panels each about 21" representing the 4 seasons and dating to the late Qing period early republic period that sold in the US for well over 1 million! Confusing isn't it. 🤔
So the colours of jade can determine the price. I won't go into treated jade atm.
When you say soft carving versus clear carving all I can say is that the price is determined not only by the color but also the age of the carving. Obviously older carvings are worth a lot more than modern carvings of the same caliber.
The one you posted probably had a very plain uncarved back. Or very little carving. A good indicator that it is probably modern. A lot of older jades, especially boulders, were highly carved with scenes on both sides of rock. Expertly and realistic carvings. Not crude lacking fine detail.
Hope this sort of helps you out Julie. Buying/appraisal of jade and jadeite jade is a very specialized area.
If you see any jades that takes your eye please post them here. I can always give you my thoughts on quality and price etc. There are of course a few really good reference books on the market.
Sorry if my reply is not making a lot of sense. It is difficult to write about jades colours/quality amid values restricted to just a few words and time etc. I could talk about jades for hours. 😊
Mark
Thanks, Mark. I appreciate your help. It is confusing and such a specialised area that I try to avoid it, especially as I don't feel I appreciate it enough.
If I see anything else that confuses me, I will be sure to ask. Thank you!
@springmeir
I take it from your purchases that you have interest in Republic period porcelain.
An essential book for dealers/collectors in my opinion is:
'Chinese porcelain of the republic period' by Simon Kwan.
Not cheap by any means but a very useful book full of information. Some superb pictures with the all important calligraphy.
Mark
Hey Mark,
Since you like jade I am hoping you can you tell me a bit about this piece by this picture . It's pretty tall, maybe like nine or so inches. Does it look like jade or is it some kind of other stone? And anything else you can tell I'd love to know. Here's a picture of the other side as well: Thanks so much! John
Hi John
Judging by your pictures your carving resembles jadeite jade.
There are two types of the generic term 'jade'. Nephrite jade and jadeite jade. Yours is the later judging by the mottled colours, vitreous-greasy grainy/dimpled surface.
Unable to determine the age just by the pictures.
Hope that answers your question.
Mark
Thanks for the info, Mark, and sorry for the bad pictures. Here are the only others I took in case they reveal anything else to you but they're pretty bad too. The piece isn't with me right now so I can't take better ones yet. Do you have any recommendations for books or other resources for learning to date jade and generally learn more about it? Does the form of this piece say anything in particular to you? It seems very large for jade since most of the pieces I have seen are rather small.
There are so many books out there dealing with jade.
Personally any books by Sam Bernstein of Bernstein Oriental jade art are very good. He also has a retail outlet in San Francisco. His knowledge is is my biased opinion second to none! He is also a really nice guy to talk to.
'jade by Roger Keverne' is also pretty good with basic information along with detailed history and carving styles and lastly a lot of pictures. Roger has a retail outlet in the UK.
Lastly, Jessica Rawson has published a very good book on jade. Her book is used extensively by the likes of museums and large auction houses.
Collecting jade with a good understanding of the styles, ability to detect dyed examples and the knowledge to differentiate between genuine jade and substitutes like serpentine takes years to master. Reading books is one thing but nothing beats touching jade and other.
Having a friend who is knowledgeable is always an asset. Same goes for porcelain/other.
I think your statue is probably second half of the 20th century. This moss in snow effect was very popular in China during the 1920's. Statues/other similar to your are still being produced today. I note that the wood base appears to be modern.
Mark
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