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@kirby13 Charles your vase is 19th century so it’s a good vase and antique as for the bubbles in the glass this would be only speaking for the time period during the Imperial workshop the quality of glass was so good that there where no defects only at a moment in time was there growing pains in the imperial kiln my understanding is it was during times of conflicts. During the glass making process in the 19th century my research indicates the method was quite different like when they polished glass in the 18th century it was done like they did the Jade in the 19th century it was more mechanical. I don’t have much research in the way of private studio glass making but believe it’s still layered and carved all to some degree and there is confusion depending on which article you read. But your vase is still a Qing Dynasty Peking vase. It think it’s elegant just not simplified. Peter is correct about Peking glass one can sell for a lot and another will not sell at all been trying to understand that part.
The number of collectors buying imperial glass is small, much like imperial lacquer.
Prices follow closely to the amount of provenance that comes with the piece because A) good quality later copies do exist, and B) collectors are looking for exceptional examples that don’t duplicate what they might already have in their collection.
So, a good period piece might sell rather low, because top bidders may already have a similar or better piece, and there’s not enough entry level interest to drive bidding up.
Most in my circle of buyers avoid glass- I have a pair of 18/19th c marked white glass vases (they look like white jade)
that I had priced as Republic pieces, but the offers made were still too low for consideration.
I’m sure you vase will draw interest, it’s very pretty, but not a broad audience, unfortunately.
Really! I did not think my vase had any age. I still think yours is much prettier.
Thanks, Brian!
@lotusblack Do you mind saying which auction house and what sale date?
I think all the Asian week sales are on the books/catalogs are printed.
However, Christie's has quite a few really nice glass pieces in this upcoming NY sale. Maybe you want to see the results and guage your decision afterwards. I withdrew once piece from this sale, but I left 2 other lots in, because I was concerned about some of what has been taking place politically/economically (and a few other minor disagreements).
It's not fruit.... it won't spoil. And, it is a rather pretty looking vase, so enjoy it a bit!
@greeno107 if I decide to let it go I will share the auction information not sure if I’m going to let it go for the exact reason you mentioned. I noticed my EBay traffic from China is nil like they turned the switch off. Have you noticed this also?
@lotusblack The USPS problems that occured in China hurt a lot of sellers/buyers. I got off lucky... lost about $5k. A friend of mine lost $60k with a sinlge USPS package... it's been two years now, and the package has never been found (sure it hasn't).
So, along with that, the Chinese buyers are a bit stuck on the general decline of quality pieces that had been coming out of the USA.
I have essentially withdrawn from Ebay... only once and a while do I (or a family member) put anything up on it.
Many Chinese buyers have become victims of the very fakes that Chinese forgers brought to the USA, and were sold as genuine in USA auctions (including Ebay). As the saying goes... what comes around, goes around!
For your vase to achieve a high sale result, it needs to be in an auction house located in an area with a large population of Chinese buyers because the vase NEEDS to be handled - photos and a description, no matter how flattering, will not bring the type of results you want.
IF the auction house that has agreed to sell your vase is located in or near NY or Los Angeles/San Francisco, then you should be okay.
However, if I was in your shoes.... I would consider a private sale for a fixed price, not an auction.
As an 18th c. vase (based upon the evaluation given by Peter), you still need to keep the reserve low to intice bidding... probably pretty close to your purchase price. So, there's a risk if the sale falls flat due to low bidder turn out.
If you auction the piece with a high reserve, let's say $1500, and it goes unsold, you will have burned the piece... no one will touch it for years.
Or, just keep it until a later time. Not every item will increase in value, but perhaps after you get some enjoyment out of it, you won't have as much attachment to it from a monetary standpoint.
Good luck!
@lotusblack It is very pretty. And glass might increase in value over time. Might be a good one to hold for awhile.
@johnshoe John I sent it off today to be evaluated for auction. My thinking is this will either do well or come back home. I will put a reserve on it. I have been doing this long enough to realize a piece is attractive and elegant when it sits on a scholars table and the light hits it you just pause in awe. Anyone handling this at viewing will see what I mean. If it doesn’t hit the reserve I’m only out shipping cost so I will keep my fingers crossed. If I notice that Christie’s pieces don’t do well I can pull it from the auction but I’m keeping my fingers cross for the $2500 low estimate that’s a nice return in my book.
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