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Beware of these Ebay sellers !
Just a little heads up to the fellow beginner collectors of Chinese art that purchase items on Ebay , I was searching the Ebay listings this morning and i found a strange ''coincidence'' when hovering around the newly listed items . I noticed that two separate shops in 2 separate locations were using the exact same backdrop to sell fake Chinese items , Not similar but exactly the same black background with all the folds and lines in the same areas .
I understand this is probably common place that such rings peddle fakes on Ebay but just thought i would show the two sellers on here so that people know to quickly back away when you see listings for sale.
Number one is a seller from Christchurch Dorset UK .
Number two is a seller from Norwich UK
Please beware as i can assure you these two sellers are selling the same fakes on different accounts.
that’s interesting, thank you. I’ve come across the Dorset seller before. I can’t remember exactly when it was, but I remember thinking there was something not right. My opinion is that these two could be part of a trend amongst Chinese sellers who display a UK address but they (or at least the items) are actually in China. Most have addresses in London, but these two may have figured out that people have wised up to their game and have therefore given themselves rather obscure address locations in an attempt to give themselves and their items an air of authenticity.
I bought something off such a dealer last year. He was supposedly based in London and I was unaware of this ‘scam’ at the time. I can’t remember what I bought, it wasn’t Chinese or even an antique, it was something else entirely. Anyway, the item took over 3 weeks to arrive! I believe this was due to the item being shipped from China to the guy in London in the first instance, and he then repacked it and posted it to me. According to the UK post marks, it had been posted 2 days before I received, so heaven knows where it was for nearly 3 weeks before that!
Chinese sellers have realised that many people now refine their searches to UK or EU sellers only, I know I do. I couldn’t understand how things that were clearly based in China were turning up in my searches, so I checked the addresses and there it was - a UK address.
Of course, many people will think a Chinese vase in Dorset or Norwich is more likely to be genuine than one in China, that’s what these sellers are counting on! It’s amazing the lengths people will go to deceive!
The best of it is i sent them a message to ask why the same exact backdrops were being used in two separate shops in different parts of the UK . An Asian lady got back to me and said ''that her friends list same items'' whatever that means i don't know.
Isn’t it really apparent when you communicate with these sellers where they’re actually from. English isn’t my first language, but I can usually tell (generally) where the seller is from by the syntax etc in their reply!
There are so many of these Chinese sellers on eBay, they’re really obvious if you check out the listings for clothes in particular. They may well be in the UK, but I doubt very much the items they’re selling are. They’re basically agents for Chinese sellers.
Yes the broken English is a big giveaway , But it also helps when they sign the message with their name..lol
Thanks for the heads up Carl !
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