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Topic starter 26/09/2025 12:28 pm  

Three or four years ago our own "Ancient Art" made a comment regarding suspicious Antiquities being offered on Catawiki from PAX Romana. 

 

He said: "Peter Reynaers and Ruth Garrido Vila, Catawiki Antiquities Expert appears to be once more helping Pax Romana unloading lots of what looks like fake antiquities on their website. [...] half looks like tourist stuff."

 

Specifically he said..."what looks like fake antiquities", that is an OPINION. and Reynaers and Garrido are in charge of this category from what I can see on the CATAWIKI site. 

 

below are the emails between Ms. Gorrido and myself over the last week or so. 

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@artancient2021 Just to follow up here. This past week I've gotten an email from Ruth Gorrido at CATAWIKI. She's making all kinds of noise and demanding I remove the Original Post. Under the Fakes section on the FORUM  ...Below is her email, and my reply. 

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My name is Ruth Garrido Vila, an antiquities expert and curator at Catawiki. I am contacting you regarding a post made by the user Art Ancient on 14/01/2021, in which I am falsely and injuriously mentioned:

"Peter Reynaers and Ruth Garrido Vila, Catawiki Antiquities Expert appears to be once more helping Pax Romana unloading lots of what looks like fake antiquities on their website. [...] half looks like tourist stuff."

I would like to clarify that I have never reviewed any pieces from this seller nor published their auctions, which are exclusively managed by my colleague Peter Reynaers. The statements made by Art Ancient are therefore false, defamatory, and severely damage my professional reputation, directly affecting my work and credibility in the field.

Under your Terms of Use and applicable laws regarding defamation, I request the immediate removal of this post and any related content that defames me.

If no action is taken within a reasonable time, I will have to consider legal action to protect my professional reputation and seek redress for the harm caused.

Thank you for your prompt attention and confirmation of the post’s removal.

 

Sincerely,
 

Ruth Garrido Vila

 

+34 605640299

 
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My original reply. 
 
Hello Ruth,
 
 
It appears the comment was aimed at the "department" as it mentions both of you, not yourself specifically/singularly. I can see no reason to remove it, as you didn't dispute the underlying accusation. 
 
If I am missing something we'll give it our attention. 
 
 
Sincerely, Peter Combs
 
PS. Before contacting folks about this kind of thing, take a deep breath and consider asking nicely..the USA's Defamation laws are very different from those of the EU.  Under our Constitution and Freedom of Speech Laws in our Constitution i.e. "The First Amendment" is fairly absolute unless there is some type of provable intent to harm directly. 
 

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Best regards, 

Peter
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Her follow up reply. 
 
Dear Mr. Combs,
 
Thank you for your reply.
 
I must also respectfully disagree with your suggestion that the statement was directed only at a “department.” The post explicitly names me—“Peter Reynaers and Ruth Garrido Vila”—and links my name to alleged misconduct.
By identifying me personally and attributing specific professional actions to me, it directly accuses me and cannot reasonably be interpreted as a mere reference to a department.
 

I would like to respectfully clarify a key point:

The statement published by Art Ancient on 14 January 2021 asserts that I personally reviewed and approved antiquities from the seller Pax Romana. This is demonstrably false. I have never reviewed or published any of this seller’s lots, and I can provide documentation from Catawiki to confirm it. The allegation is therefore not a matter of opinion but a false statement of fact.
 
While I understand your reference to U.S. First Amendment protections, the post is publicly accessible within the European Union. Under EU law—including national defamation statutes and the Digital Services Act (Regulation (EU) 2022/2065)—hosts of user-generated content are required to act expeditiously once notified of illegal or defamatory material. The continued publication of a false professional accusation causes measurable harm to my reputation and career.
According to my lawyer, as your post is visible in Europe it is also under the European law.
Furthermore, as the owner and operator of the website hosting this content, you may be held jointly liable for the damages caused to my professional reputation. Should the material not be removed within the stated timeframe, I expressly reserve the right to pursue all appropriate legal remedies, including a claim for financial compensation to you as the owner of the website for the harm to my image and professional activities.
In addition, under the European General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), my full name constitutes personal data and may not be processed or published without a valid legal basis or my explicit consent.
 
Accordingly, I formally request once again:
 
-Removal of the defamatory statement and any direct reposts or mirrors of it containing my name.
 
-Written confirmation of the removal, or, if you decline, a detailed explanation of your legal basis for refusing.
 
If I do not receive confirmation within 14 days, I will have no choice but to escalate the matter through legal counsel and to notify the relevant EU Digital Services Coordinators.
 
I trust you will reconsider and take appropriate action.
 
 
Sincerely,
 
Ruth Garrido Vila
Antiquities Expert & Curator
Catawiki
 
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My most recent reply. 
 
Ok Ruth,
 
Here's the deal...
 
Apparently your lawyers have never heard of Section 230
SEC 230, Immunity from Publisher Liability: 
The core of Section 230 is its provision that no online service provider or user shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of information provided by another information content provider.
 
  • Third-Party Content: 
    Section 230 primarily shields platforms from responsibility for content posted by their users, not content they create themselves.
In other words, Sec 230 gives me as a site provider absolute immunity under US Law. 
________________________________________________________________
 As for the GDPR, they can do little as your name/data was not private and was not disclosed by the poster on our site but was published along with your image and position by Catawiki. 
The poster expressed an opinion and did not make a statement of absolute fact , he said "unloading lots of what looks like fake antiquities".  Further you are free to chime in and comment on the old post to refute the assertion if you wish, it is a Public Forum. 
______________________________________________________________________
 
In closing Ruth, this is not a can worms you want to open with me.I've done business with CATAWIKI and was an affiliate of the company through our website. The relationship ended when we caught CATAWIKI stealing money from our Affiliate Account and we terminated the relationship. This is something we've never discussed or made public on our site's 50,000 users through our blog nor FORUM, nor made public to date with our 26,000 YouTube Subscribers who collect Asian Art.  Perhaps it's time we did...so I will. 
I've taken the liberty of posting your emails and my reply on the Forum as an addendum to the original post. 
 
Sincerely Peter Combs
 
___________________________________
and so it goes...
 
All is well...Peter
 

Peter


   
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26/09/2025 2:43 pm  

Someone trying to threaten Peter and push him around...

Good luck with that! 😄

 


take it with a grain of salt


   
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