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After 15 years, eBay plans to cut off PayPal as its main payment processor.
Would like anybody’s comment on this topic.
Do you think it is going to better for eBay users or would it be just as bad, at times, as dealing with PayPal. Obviously you are going to have to deal directly with eBay when it changes over in 2020. I have dealt with PayPal for some years now, and I think that people do not like change, they say “better the devil you know (than the devil you don’t)”. I am used to the way PayPal works and that the money immediately goes into my account. My thoughts are that it is going to be worse, because like I said people do not like change. At the end of the day it is all down to eBay making more money for themselves, they are just a money machine, they do not care about the sellers or the buyers. I have been on both ends of buying and selling and I have seen it for myself the way it works.
hi boxing and all, the short answer is we dont like it. We have also recently been forced to use alternate shipping methods and not the default USPS. It's going to take a little getting used to and I'm sure some money will get held up at inopportune times. I dont think there is a lot we can do but get used to it. We may have an option to keep paypal but unknown at this time. The times they are a changing.
best
joe carazola
Hi Joe,
The thing is that eBay is nothing like it used to be. I know that the market is depressed at the moment, it probably is the same in the US. All I hear from people in the trade who used to sell on eBay is that they no longer do now. This has been going on for a few years long before the market got depressed. My feelings are that they ruined something that used to be very good, meaning the market for the antiques and collectables, people do not like to get messed about or loose money. People who sell new goods on there, I would imagine that that market is still strong and probably 90% of eBay’s revenue, so the antiques and collectables probably do not mean much to them. One example, a good friend of mine that has been dealing for a long time and been selling on eBay for over ten years, sold eight sovereigns. The buyer paid immediately for the goods, three days later the buyer had opened a case, stating that he had received eight old pennies and eBay refunded the buyer in full. When my friend contacted them, they wouldn’t listen to what he had to say and that if he wanted to take the matter further he could go to the police. Another friend of mine posted something out of the country and it was delayed for almost two months. In this period of time they paid the buyer back, it was slightly over £5000. A week and a half later the goods were received, but the seller lost his money. The thing at the end of the day, to me, is that when you treat people fair it goes a long way. It is like if you messed all your clients about, you would end up with no work. It is exactly the same that is going on with all this fake Chinese goods, eBay do not care. I feel I have said enough on this matter now, if anybody else would like to comment, please do.
I heard about this change a few months ago, you will however still be able to use Pay-Pal at your option as the selected primary payment method. (as far as I know)
On the matter of the "Global Shipping Program," I believe you can opt out of it.
Over the years I've had a number of conversations with eBay executives pretty far up the food chain. The issue for them is they simply do not understand the antique business on any level and aren't interested putting people on staff who do.
The goal of the company is to cut staff and overhead and to turn it into a venue for new Buy-It-Now products. These have a much lower conversion rate than auctions, however, the non-payment rate is also much lower and result in fewer headaches requiring intervention by eBay staff.
As for the flood of fakes on the site primarily from China in the "Antiques" catagory. eBay management do not care that it is illegal to export Antiques from China and all of these items by law must be modern copies to be exported. They are in effect co-conspirators to perpetrating fraud.
It's a shame, we've more than a few times contemplated setting up a vetted auction and selling area on this site. It's a possibility, we might start with a listing area for fixed price items, then eventually (traffic permitting) do a few trial auctions. Time will tell, as long as we think it will work, we will do it and with very different rules.
Best Peter
Peter
Hi Peter,
That sounds like it might be an interesting development of this site. I find the amount of items in the antique section that are from China and clearly not antique, very frustrating!
Best wishes,
Julia
Hi Peter,
Thank you for your comment, that sounds very interesting. I did try Catawiki for a very short time, but that was absolutely horrendous, much worse than eBay and PayPal. It took me over three months to get a refund from them for something that I bought from there, which had been vetted by their experts and it turned out to be a repro. I have tried selling on there as well, only one item, they changed my description without telling me and then tried to charge me for a cites certificate. Thinking I was a little bit green, I didn’t need one to send the item into Europe, they stated that I did need it. They said they could sort it all out for me at a cost, basically trying to line their own pockets. Anyway, I wish you all the best and hope it will be a success if you do try to put it together. You have a good following on your YouTube videos and the forum seems to have taken off quite good as well, it can only get bigger and better.
Boxingsmart,
It all comes down to site traffic and interest in such an option. I started this site and doing the Video's just for fun and to share the information we've accumulated since the late 70's.
If it keeps developing a life of it's own and users find what we it engaging, the site will evolve naturally in the right direction hopefully. Who knows where it will lead.
Peter
Peter
I remember a time when Paypal was very annoying and I was looking for an alternative. I now LOVE paypal.
Ultimately, the adoption of this new payment method will not be up to eBay or Sellers, it will be up to how well it is adopted by purchasers on eBay. I think eBay misses their 2.9% of each deal. That doesn't mean the world will use it.
...and perhaps it could be an improvement - who knows...
It is what it is!
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