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I had this dish several years ago and sold it to an American museum.
What criteria do you use to distinguish genuine Kakiemon porcelain?
A Fine Rare 17th Century or Early 18th Century Kakiemon Porcelain Dish from the Collection of Soame Jenyns, Deputy Keeper of Asian Antiquities, British Museum (1950-1968). The lobed oblong shaped shallow serving dish is make using fine Nigoshide (milky white) porcelain. The painting mostly follows the shallow moulding but the painter seems to have used the moulded design as a guide, rather than being a defining feature of the end product. The shape is crisply moulded with a thin pearly glaze containing a subtle hint of green-blue. The decoration centers around a pine tree with a scholars rock in front, the top of the tree is partly obscured by swirling Ruyi fungus clouds with highly stylised iron red clouds. The cavetto, above and below, is of flowering prunus among rocks, the shorter sides are with peony and scrolls. It is possible the dish owned by Mrs. Walter Sedgwick and exhibited at The Oriental Ceramics Society’s ‘Loan Exhibition of Japanese Porcelain’ in 1956 comes from the same set (perhaps five or even ten dishes). Soame Jenyns lent many pieces to this exhibition, including the four items that followed this dish in the catalogue. They were contemporaries and both had a friendship as well as a connection through the The Oriental Ceramics Society in London. See ‘References’ and also the photographs of the catalogue below the photograph gallery. Two Kakiemon porcelain dishes of this design, possibly from the same set were acquired by the British Museum in 1940 see https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/A_1940-0601-2-3
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- Condition
- In excellent condition. Minor rubbing to some in the iron oxide sky colour. Firing fault - the blue enamel has crawled in places.
- Size
- Diameter 20.8cm (8 1/8 inches).
- Provenance
- Soame Jenyns, Deputy Keeper of Asian Antiquities, British Museum (1950-1968) and thence by decent. Mr. Roger Soame Jenyns (1904-1976) was the foremost scholar of his generation in the arts of Japan and China. He was a discerning collector and a member of the British General Committee of the Royal Academy Exhibition 1935-1956. His books include Later Chinese Ceramics (1951) Ming Pottery and Porcelain (1953) Wares of the Transitional Period between Ming and the Ch'ing 1620-1683 (1955) Japanese Porcelain (1965) Japanese Pottery (1971) and (with Margaret Jourdain) Chinese Export Art in the Eighteenth Century (1950). For more information see : Provenance ; Collectors, Dealers & Scholars : Chinese Ceramics in Britain & America (Roy Davids, Dominic Jellinek, Privately Printed, 2011. ISBN 978-0-9570148-0-0).
- Stock number
- 25790
- References
- For an almost identical Kakiemon dish from the collection of Mrs. Walter Sedgwick see : Loan Exhibition of Japanese Porcelain, The Oriental Ceramics Society, The Arts Council Gallery, 4 St. Jame's Square, London SW1, March 28th to April 28th 1956.
A Fine Rare 17th Century or Early 18th Century Kakiemon Porcelain Dish from the Collection of Soame Jenyns, Deputy Keeper of Asian Antiquities, British Museum (1950-1968). The lobed oblong shaped shallow serving dish is make using fine Nigoshide (milky white) porcelain. The painting mostly follows the shallow moulding but the painter seems to have used the moulded design as a guide, rather than being a defining feature of the end product. The shape is crisply moulded with a thin pearly glaze containing a subtle hint of green-blue. The decoration centers around a pine tree with a scholars rock in front, the top of the tree is partly obscured by swirling Ruyi fungus clouds with highly stylised iron red clouds. The cavetto, above and below, is of flowering prunus among rocks, the shorter sides are with peony and scrolls. It is possible the dish owned by Mrs. Walter Sedgwick and exhibited at The Oriental Ceramics Society’s ‘Loan Exhibition of Japanese Porcelain’ in 1956 comes from the same set (perhaps five or even ten dishes). Soame Jenyns lent many pieces to this exhibition, including the four items that followed this dish in the catalogue. They were contemporaries and both had a friendship as well as a connection through the The Oriental Ceramics Society in London. See ‘References’ and also the photographs of the catalogue below the photograph gallery. Two Kakiemon porcelain dishes of this design, possibly from the same set were acquired by the British Museum in 1940 see
- Condition
- In excellent condition. Minor rubbing to some in the iron oxide sky colour. Firing fault - the blue enamel has crawled in places.
- Size
- Diameter 20.8cm (8 1/8 inches).
- Provenance
- Soame Jenyns, Deputy Keeper of Asian Antiquities, British Museum (1950-1968) and thence by decent. Mr. Roger Soame Jenyns (1904-1976) was the foremost scholar of his generation in the arts of Japan and China. He was a discerning collector and a member of the British General Committee of the Royal Academy Exhibition 1935-1956. His books include Later Chinese Ceramics (1951) Ming Pottery and Porcelain (1953) Wares of the Transitional Period between Ming and the Ch'ing 1620-1683 (1955) Japanese Porcelain (1965) Japanese Pottery (1971) and (with Margaret Jourdain) Chinese Export Art in the Eighteenth Century (1950). For more information see : Provenance ; Collectors, Dealers & Scholars : Chinese Ceramics in Britain & America (Roy Davids, Dominic Jellinek, Privately Printed, 2011. ISBN 978-0-9570148-0-0).
- Stock number
- 25790
- References
- For an almost identical Kakiemon dish from the collection of Mrs. Walter Sedgwick see : Loan Exhibition of Japanese Porcelain, The Oriental Ceramics Society, The Arts Council Gallery, 4 St. Jame's Square, London SW1, March 28th to April 28th 1956.
Thank you. I enjoyed reading Soame Jenyns' Later Chinese Porcelain (which did not seem all that late to me).
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